The Giant Professional Grading Thread


This thread is the exclusive home for all your basic professional-grading related questions and answers! As the forum grows, so does the type of discussion that we have. We are implementing this megathread in order to cut down on some frequently posted questions which deserve to be answered but clutter up the forum if they are posted on their own.


  • Should I grade this card?

  • How do I submit to PSA/BGS/CGC?

  • Which grading company and/or middleman service is the best for my needs?

  • What grade do you think this card will get? (DISCLAIMER: Grading cards from photos is not reliable, even if you have lots of photos. Youshould not exclusively rely on the opinions of forum members for deciding which cards to grade. Using a reputable pregrading service whenyou submit your cards is the best way to know what grades they are likely to receive.)

  • Grading company x is fantastic! I love them!

  • Grading company y is horrible! Nobody use them!


As with other megathreads, this thread is now the only place to ask and answer these types of questions. General grading-related questions that aren’t posted here will be moved, locked, or removed at moderator discretion. If you’re unsure about where your question or topic should be posted, PM a mod and we’ll help you out!

Does CGC grade easier when there is no tilt?
When edges are being graded, does that include corner edges?
Reholdering - current turnaround?
Hairline scratch Dragon ball super psa grading
Shadow Lugia Jumbo Card (XD Gale of Darkness) pop question
Question regarding the whitening of borders for PSA grading
Are these print lines or scratches?
throughput situation at PSA?
PSA $50 Grading Tier?
Varieties of Corner Conditions PSA 8
PSA Reholder service turnaround time atm
Advice on Potential Impact on PSA Grade
PSA low Pop or low percentage Gem Mint Pokemon Cards
PSA/Beckett submission card sleeving
Anyone know expected time for express grading right now?
New Collector - seeking advice on grading cards
Yes or No to grade a Chrystal Charizard with authograph
PSA Financial Guarantee
How do I get a PSA 9 or 10?
PSA Population Update
WTB PSA 10 Neo Genesis Lugia and Pichu
Can a scratched foil possibly get a 10 or 9?
PSA 9 with THREE print lines?!
Thoughts on these cards for grading? White on Reverse Mario
Newbie here back after a few months, is PSA still backed up?
Beckett / PSA Grading Prices due a reduction?
out of focus japanese base set
Is CGC grading early Celebrations cards a big deal?
Pikachu Ghost Stamp error EG 9 to PSA 9 Crossover?
Damaged card at Ludkins/PSA
PSA Over-Graded my Mario Pikachu
Newer cert, old slab
CGC Grading Standards
Would you call this a weak or average PSA 10?
Can someone help me get a rough idea on grading my Rayquaza
Has anybody seen these dots before on the back of a card
Can anyone show me close ups of PSA 10s
Is this 1. Edition Base Blastoise worth grading?
BGS Regrade - 1st Edition Lugia
PSA 10 to BGS 10 Crossgrading
6xx Certs vs 5xx Certs, PSA
PSA General and Specific Questions
PSA Delay Following Payment Of Upcharges
Card grading question
** DAMAGED BY PSA *** 1st Edition Charizard HOLO 1999
X-grading PSA 10 to BGS - anyone have experience with this?
Becket grading
Black Ink Dots Grading Question
Should I PSA grade all 1st edition base set Pokémon?
How to stop the second wave backlog?
The Content Creator Megathread
Is it worth Grading with CGC or should I wait for PSA?
Regrade/Cross Grade
PSA Recognizing Gapless(4th Print) Base Set a Game Changer?
Issues with CGC Bulk Submissions
Neo Genesis Condition
I think PSA done goofed up...
Will PSA Grade my Card - Ink on Card
Volume of cards that get graded at PSA
BGS regraded with PSA
Topps Chrome grading difficulty
2003 Skyridge cards incl Charizard Holo (Which) Should I PSA
New To Serious Collecting - PSA or CGC?
PSA black spot weird residue under the light
Cards back from PSA with weird white squares all over them
1st ed charizard cross over regrade from PSA to BGS question
PSA to start using Genamint
Is grading with anyone who aren't PSA stupid?
PSA Pop Report
PSA Shutdown Update and Potential BGS Switch
PSA Submissions
Beckett label confusion (Japanese gameboy venusaur)
how can i tell when a card was PSA graded
PSA Claims Card Recolored
About BGS (and maybe CGC) languages
Centring question - psa submission
Fake booster boxes/fake slabs?
The Giant E4 Megathread
What percentage of PSA submissions is Pokemon? (Data please)
Thin thick stamp BGS
PSA now grades certain Modern KOREAN cards, why now?
Opinion on this grade?
Got back my super express PSA order not happy
Is PSA start to grade different language of modern cards?
Mario Pikachu - PSA 9 or 10?
Is there a better way for grading companies to process cards
PSA 9 Vs CGC 9
PSA 10 > BGS 9.5 > CGC 10 value versus Quality
Ink/Marker Dot Affect PSA Grade
BGS 2-5 day service
PSA turnaround times
PSA Bulk Submission and Final Grades
Psa grading small dent dot question
E4 PSA Grading Service = Ludkins USA Grading
E4 PSA Grading Service = Ludkins USA Grading
Is this flaw a big deal with grading?
If you had the perfect card, where do you grade?
Should I avoid grading with BGS?
Does a curved card reduce the PSA Grade?
Does PSA Clean Your Cards?
PSA 7.5, 8.5 - BGS 8.5 - Thoughts on the between grades?
How soon do images get uploaded to PSA database?
Need help to determine the value of a card
Grading Company Tierlist / Rating (Logos)
rate this card
Did CGC Change Their Grading Standards?
crossover to aim for psa10?
PSA EXPRESS TO $150 (From $200)
BGS Review question
CGC raising prices
Cross Grading BGS --> PSA
What to send cards to PSA in
1st edition jungle/ fossil cards worth grading ?
What grade do you think this would get?
Condition effect of non-holo, scratch on the border?
The E4 Megathread Guide
getting subgrades with bgs
Cross grading to PSA
Don't get scammed: Fake cards in fake PSA slabs
Worth PSA grading 1st edition fossil and jungle cards atm?
Value of a 10 surface subgrade?
SGC 9 mint?
BGS, or PSA? (NM Coro Coro Nidoking)
PSA Graded Card Scan
Gold Diamond Label PSA

I’ve been curious what grade this card would get. I’m guessing a 7?


@smokemon, PSA7 looks about right to me.

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I have an old label shining gyrados that is a PSA 6, and it is in better condition than this - would be surprised to see this card get more than a PSA 5. Your front is great, but the back is…unfortunate.


A 9.5 BGS and a 10 PSA lugia sold for 100k difference the other week. Same exact condition. (GEMMINT) The PSA10 won big and the BGS suffered the loss of being an uglier 9.5 grade

Why would a buyer want a 9.5 on their shelf when they could have a 10? I don’t blame the buyer. 10 looks better to viewers

Seller with BGS LUGIA lost out on 100k because he chose the company who is impossible to get a perfect 10 with a 10 eligible card anywhere else

PSA seller knew his card would get a 10 and reaped the benefits of have the “10” sticker

Why grade with BGS?
I reiterate … Why in the world would you want a 9.5 over a 10, same exact condition. BGS is a bad submission choice… change my mind

@smokemon, I’d guess a PSA 6 but could even drop down to a 5. That’s quite a bit of edge and corner wear. But so hard without being in person.

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Maybe because people like companies that aren’t psa? And basically your entire post is incorrect. Its not the same condition, guarantee that 9.5 wasn’t quad or quad+. It would’ve most likely gotten a psa 9.


The real question is, why would anyone grade anything given the interagency variability, and the fact that grading them is incredibly arbitrary?

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I knew we’d get a mega thread for this

I love that a Shining Tyranitar is the first card to make an appearance in this thread


Its about showing it to other viewers as well. 9.5 means flawed while 10 means flawless to untrained eyes. Both gem mint. I like to show my collection to others who arent in the hobby as well

Yes psa 10 is flawless for sure


well the buyers with 100k difference in price had the same idea in mind when they spent their money it appears

“Untrained eyes”… 10 looks better than 9.5… How am I wrong?

I also love how fourthstar begins the thread and immediately it gets super busy, with an almost immediate card post, as if the eager have been lying in wait, in the darkness, holding back to unleash their full fury.


I’m just answering your question about the Lugia. The difference was that the bgs will probably cross to a psa 9. In regards to 9.5 looking better, it’s really just a matter of personal preference.

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I don’t know about lying in wait, I’ve seen a lot of what grade will this get threads recently

Gotcha. Just had that on my mind. Always thought BGS 9.5 is psa 10 every time. Thanks for letting me vent that one out

Oh, Boo, I know, you’re right. I just like to think that we’ve only just begun to feel the full wrath…

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What do you guys think my first Ed charmander will get?