The article doesn’t present any new information. If anything it’s just going to reach a wider audience. Nice to see the author give credit to Rattle at least.
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What shocked me the most about this whole situation is the fact that not only does PSA outsource pack authentication which I wasn’t aware of because I’ve never dealt with PSA graded packs but the company authenticating the packs knows absolutely nothing about Pokémon. There are so many issues with this. Why would a company that authenticates a specific item outsource it to a 3rd party? They have no control of the authentication process. Did PSA do any kind of research on BBCE before working with them? Does BBCE get to authenticate there own product? If so, that’s a conflict of interest regardless of BBCE’s credibility. How many graded packs out there are fake or resealed? On top of that, there’s no guarantee on BBCE’s authentication so what’s the point? PSA definitely needs to address this because this will damage their credibility.
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> PSA definitely needs to address this because this will damage their credibility.
PSA will continue to rake it in. Stuff like this is small peanuts that won’t impact submissions of cards or sealed product IMO
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Part 3 
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Apparently, Logan Paul and Shyne, the guy who sold the case to LP, are going to fly to BBCE and open the case there to verify if the boxes inside are 1st Ed or not. TBD what happens, if it’s going to be recorded, but I guess we’re getting some sort of resolution soon?
Source: @cardporn on IG
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Will this box opening be bigger than his first 
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Time to sell all your psa graded packs before it turns out bcce doesn’t know much about Pokémon sealed items
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I’m getting tons of messages so I’ll break my silence publicly just to say I’m only going to talk about this to Rattle, LP, and one other person. I totally trust and respect Rattle and we are friends. At this moment, he knows everything I know and much more. Neither he nor I will conclusively say the contents of Logan’s case contains anything besides 1st Ed base. In fact, we both hope they are legit.
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It’s pretty ingenious from PSA… if BBCE isn’t directly employed by PSA it leaves PSA with a perfect opportunity to pass the buck legally if any issues arise with the items authenticated by BBCE. Such a smart business model. I wonder how much else they outsource to avoid liability?
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The real question is how long until we see pics of that guy in the black and red flannel holding the 1st edition case in the meme thread. Someone make it happen please hahaha
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It could be pretty detrimental to their business. Who would want to grade stuff with them if they knew it was being passed onto someone that had no idea what they were doing.
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what if they open it and it has steam siege inside that would be pretty funny i think
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The pack of deoxys that is extremely fake that @rattle shows in his video from @cooltrainerryan is very telling about BBCE’s knowledge in the space.
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Excellent questions that anyone who has ever submitted anything to PSA should be asking themselves right now.
But shh! The PSA apologists don’t want us talking about it.
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PSA doesnt grade packs in house? So what I ship my packs to them and they ship it to bbce? OR where? How do we know this is confirmed? This is huge lol If i send something to psa, i expect psa to grade it not send it to some other company to grade it
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100% agree. It comes back to buying the card or product over the grade. Many people have lost sight of why things get authenticated or encapsulated. Collectables are meant to be displayed and having a protective case makes sense. When you can’t see the actual collectible or it’s condition what is the point other than for a flex? For many years I refused to send my packs in to PSA because of their rubbish cases which ruined the aesthetic of the item, not to mention there are multiple question marks over what standards even get used to grade them in the first place. If anything this sealed case confirms the level of grading put into packs which certainly hasn’t changed my opinion on grading packs other than for a nice case (though there are cheaper alternatives…)
It’s one thing to challenge an individual on credibility and authentication, but it’s another ball game to challenge a leading company with huge customer base. The problem is reputation as we can see isn’t always built on trust but rather turnover and salability. The whole change of company structure to PSA and their CEO, the FBI scenario, the card doctor scenario, then PWCC and Ebay are huge red flags in themselves to some pretty major corruption going down from the top level.
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Something rattle mentioned in this video is that apparently they’ve (BBCE)been scammed before or been attempts at scamming them. If the people who are supposed to be authenticating it can’t guarantee it because they can’t be certain, then what kind of expert are you in the first place? Why get it authenticated if you’re authentication has no value behind it.
I think Scott mentioned that there were no Pokemon people involved. I believe in one of the tea Time videos PokeJew came out on there and said that he was involved and had discuss things with the people who are involved. He went on to criticize people saying that they didn’t know what they were talking about but it sounded like a lot of back peddling from him. I can’t imagine that the Pokemon people who were quick to jump in and help for the fame and clout are probably not as eager to jump in and claim that they were involved in the deal now.
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Yeah, it’s a little murky to say the least. If you look on PSA’s website for unopened pack grading, they don’t say BBCE authenticates it, at least I didn’t see any mention of it. Hell, on their website for unopened pack authentication they say this “A series of PSA graders review your packs for authenticity and seal. If genuine and unopened, PSA looks for evidence of resealing, repairing and alterations.”
But, if you go to BBCE’s website, in an update during the COVID pandemic, they say they do all the pack authentication for PSA.
Source: www.bbcexchange.com/authentication
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Going back to when the case first sold on eBay:
Do you think eBay would side with the buyer if the buyer had paid for the case and opened it up to find out there wasn’t 1st edition boxes in there? Because at ~$11,000 dollars a box, it’s probably better to just open the case and one of the booster boxes inside because you’ll never get the chance to get a 1st ed box at the price ever again. And if it’s not 1st ed, you just get your money back and make the community aware of the scam.
The description in the listing said if the box is opened that it can’t be returned but surely if the contents inside don’t match up then eBay’s buyer protection kicks in?
I understand that the winner of the auction and the seller agreed to come to an agreement outside of eBay but I wonder why that was even a consideration for the buyer.
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Damn, I wonder where he got the information from?
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