1st Edition Charizard BGS 10 going up for AUCTION Aug18?

[aquaz]

The winner of the pristine zard, will surely reveal himself eventually.

[elftan]

@aquaz

The winner of the pristine zard, will surely reveal himself eventually.

Find out next time on pawn stars

[auron92it]

@aquaz

The winner of the pristine zard, will surely reveal himself eventually.

Maybe…if the guy is like me, the card would be in the darkness for the rest of its life
I should start to share my collection one day .-.

[auron92it]

@elftan

@aquaz

The winner of the pristine zard, will surely reveal himself eventually.

Find out next time on pawn stars

Rick doesn’t like Pokeman…

[elftan]

@auron92it

@elftan

Find out next time on pawn stars

Rick doesn’t like Pokeman…

But Chumlee does…

[pokeaddict84]

@elftan

@auron92it

Rick doesn’t like Pokeman…

But Chumlee does…

I didn’t even know Chumlee had a pokemon Youtube channel until last week

[genosha]

@pokeaddict84

@elftan

But Chumlee does…

I didn’t even know Chumlee had a pokemon Youtube channel until last week

Chumlee is not allowed to buy items above 5k anyway (or that’s atleast what the show is trying to make you believe)

[1by1collector]

@peacock

@swolepoke

PSA 10 Shadowless Charizard: $11,433.33
BGS 9.5 Shadowless Charizard: $8,888.00

you’re forgetting PSA 9 Shadowless Charizard: $1,099.00

Literally doubled in price from 2 months ago.

These prices are absoultely insane. Over 8k for a shadowless bgs 9.5 (so potentially paying over 8,000 for a shadowless psa 9) that is just effed. I can’t believe it. Hope these prices are sustainable.

[gottaketchumall]

@1by1collector

@peacock

These prices are absoultely insane. Over 8k for a shadowless bgs 9.5 (so potentially paying over 8,000 for a shadowless psa 9) that is just effed. I can’t believe it. Hope these prices are sustainable.

BGS is going to see a HUGE influx of BGS 9.5 minimum crossover requests of charizards currently residing in PSA 9 cases.

[shizzlemetimbers]

Crazy auction that is for sure! PSA 10 1st Ed Charizard price levels are soon going to surpass Michael Jordan rookie in PSA 10, which is a pretty important milestone I reckon.

PWCC (22th Aug) MJ 10 - $20,100
PWCC (29th Aug Zard 10 - $20,000

[pfm]

@KingPokemon

@pfm

The Pidgeot I grabbed also was the second of two listings and ended up being the lower of the two

There’s many reasons but I guess the main two are I’ve been watching for more years than I like to admit and in paying attention that’s the conclusion I’ve come to.
The second reason is quite simple. The one highest on the list is viewed 100% of the time by 100% of the bidders. The one closing second is viewed and bid on a lesser number of times. Bid on less cause let’s say I see your base PSA 9 charizard first so I pop a proxy bid or snipe on it. Now I see PFM’s base PSA 9 charizard. It’s very unlikely I’ll bid on his as long as a bid on yours is still active for me.
Years ago, there was a Yahoo Auctions USA. We used to have to pay extra to get higher on the list so we were seen first. Another strategy was to see when other like items were closing then we’d arrange our closings just before the competition.

Now is it 100%? Ofcourse not but when margins matter this all should be kept in mind.

Can anybody think of another reason.

Continuing from this logic, let’s assume there are only 3 people interested in the auction. The first card will probably be won by whoever wants it most and is willing to dish out the most. When the second item is about to expire, 33% of the competition is removed and the person who was willing to pay the most has already likely won the first one.

Another factor I can attest to from my experience yesterday is psychologically, I was not interested in paying more than what the first item expired at. I was watching both carefully and I would not bid over the first item because it feels like I’d be overpaying for the card.

A final thing to consider is that auctions tend to draw people who want to snipe a deal. When I saw the first Nidoking go over $300 (I didn’t want to pay that much) I figured they both would end that high. Other people may have given up without bidding because of that assumption.

So yeah, I think there are a lot of psychological factors to consider. But I persevered with Gary’s words echo in my head “bid the second…” like a professor telling you not to ride your bike indoors.

[chris350dx]

@hypernova

@silentoaths

With the market on psa 9 shadowless zards going up it’s a wonder if it will surpass unlimited 10s in price. It’s definitly possible. Also given that in the long run there is a chance that the pop of 9s will be much less than unlimited 10s due to print runs.

Looks like the shadowless charizards have both roughly doubled in value over the past couple months
psa 10: 5k → 11.3k
psa 9: 500 → 1.1k

Has the unlimited charizard doubled in value? Don’t think so. I’ve heard a few people say the psa 9 unlimited has even gone down in value. The psa 10 unlimited has had a roughly 33% increase in value (1.5k → 2k, although not a whole lot of data points to go off of on ebay). I think people are starting to realize the rarity of the shadowless cards. Definitely possible that the psa 9 shadowless creeps on up to the unlimited 10, especially at the rate they’re increasing now.

Unlimited has more than doubled in a 10 about 4 months ago it was about 600-700 avg i got mine in march for $360

[swolepoke]

Time to lock this thread??

lol

[silentoaths]

Fine with me. Auction is over. Future discussions should go to another post.

[teraz]

@pfm

@KingPokemon

There’s many reasons but I guess the main two are I’ve been watching for more years than I like to admit and in paying attention that’s the conclusion I’ve come to.
The second reason is quite simple. The one highest on the list is viewed 100% of the time by 100% of the bidders. The one closing second is viewed and bid on a lesser number of times. Bid on less cause let’s say I see your base PSA 9 charizard first so I pop a proxy bid or snipe on it. Now I see PFM’s base PSA 9 charizard. It’s very unlikely I’ll bid on his as long as a bid on yours is still active for me.
Years ago, there was a Yahoo Auctions USA. We used to have to pay extra to get higher on the list so we were seen first. Another strategy was to see when other like items were closing then we’d arrange our closings just before the competition.

Now is it 100%? Ofcourse not but when margins matter this all should be kept in mind.

Can anybody think of another reason.

Continuing from this logic, let’s assume there are only 3 people interested in the auction. The first card will probably be won by whoever wants it most and is willing to dish out the most. When the second item is about to expire, 33% of the competition is removed and the person who was willing to pay the most has already likely won the first one.

Another factor I can attest to from my experience yesterday is psychologically, I was not interested in paying more than what the first item expired at. I was watching both carefully and I would not bid over the first item because it feels like I’d be overpaying for the card.

A final thing to consider is that auctions tend to draw people who want to snipe a deal. When I saw the first Nidoking go over $300 (I didn’t want to pay that much) I figured they both would end that high. Other people may have given up without bidding because of that assumption.

So yeah, I think there are a lot of psychological factors to consider. But I persevered with Gary’s words echo in my head “bid the second…” like a professor telling you not to ride your bike indoors.

Just to throw an outlier in there: The 1st ed Raikou PSA 9s from last night sold in succession, but the second one was much higher. An opposite factor other than not wanting to pay more than the first one sold is if you missed out on the 1st one, you may want to bid higher to ensure you get it the next time around. Likely what happened with the Raikou cards, there was at least one person that made sure they would get it and probably just threw a towering max bid on it.

[KingPokemon]

I’m not smart enough to phrase it any better than I already did.

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink:)

[geg89]

@KingPokemon

I’m not smart enough to phrase it any better than I already did.

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink:)