Then and now…
Funny how little over a 1yr 1/2 can make a difference with pricing between this booster box.
Compared to Logan Paul’s $216,000 + purchase. Lol
I’m not good with math, never was, so I’m not sure what the ROI % is, but I’m sure it’s better than most stocks. Doesn’t take rocket science to figure that out.
It was most recently purchased for $375,000.
Allowing this to be bumped because it’s very relevant for the current landscape of collecting, and I think will promote some discussion.
I honestly think that box breaks for a 1st ed box are going to be insane moving forward. This will likely wind up being the most sought after and expensive sealed box of anything in history, I could see a point where this would even eclipse early MTG sealed product, for several reasons. Mainly, much better chance of pulling the high dollar cards. Growing market etc.
It would not surprise me if this box surpasses 1mil in the next year or 3.
Here’s to pokemon being more than MTG one day!
The 375k box purchase appears to be for a live box opening for “charity”. Packs sound like they’re going to be resold. I think these live box openings are going to be a major demand pull for sealed product going forward. It is very easy to get attention to your brand by cracking these boxes. Even if you are reselling the packs at cost, you can still make money from youtube advertising and growing your brand. I wouldn’t be surprised if this Chris Camillo guy suddenly starts a “Pokémon investing” course as he seems like the type of person that would be popular with the /r/wallstreetbets type of crowd. His knowledge of pokemon TCG is laughable for someone who spent 375k for a 1st ed. base box.
Oh snap my bad lol. I only knew of Logan’s purchase. Well dang, there ya go…went for even more lol
Charity or not, still good for the hobby? Or kinda ridiculous? Then again, what is ridiculous these days when it comes to this stuff…
It’s almost becoming like a game of monkey see monkey do. “If this person paid that much then I’ll 1 up him/her even more”
It’s entertaining in a way, but I think it has lasting effects good and bad in my opinion.
There is a difference between raising money for an accredited, reputable and established charity like NAMI, vs raising money for your personal charitable foundation. I do not know him so will not judge this decision and simply hope the money is put to good use.
My apologies. I should have asked first. I did read the rule though and figured this was ok considering.
Thanks for letting it ride out…again lol
I feel even though it’s a charity of whatever it maybe, a sale is a sale in my book. I’m sure collectors will go based off this sale to establish a new pricing point. Always does.
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Charity or not, still good for the hobby? Or kinda ridiculous? Then again, what is ridiculous these days when it comes to this stuff…
It’s almost becoming like a game of monkey see monkey do. “If this person paid that much then I’ll 1 up him/her even more”
It’s entertaining in a way, but I think it has lasting effects good and bad in my opinion. [/quote]
I actually don’t think the price has hit a ridiculous amount yet. Not even close.
When you look at alpha/Beta MTG sealed packs(not even sure there are boxes left)
The price point, card pull ratios, and the fact that even the high demand(high value) cards dont have near the trade/sale volume that Pokémon base 1st has. It’s a no brainer to me, which should be valued higher at this point.
Pokémon has a much larger target audience, and it is actually growing. The cards in the base set 1st are very much in demand at every grade level, and there is demand for almost every card in the set.
I’m sure I’m going to get lit up by the MTG guys in here. But you have a much higher chance of pulling the big three in a 1st base box than you do pulling a black lotus, which to my knowledge is the only card that brings 200k+
100% agree. I’m going to say for sure next year. $1M+. If you take a guess at the number of these left sealed…probably in the 30-40 range and you get 5-10 more people that buy & open them on YouTube, the $1 Million mark is actually pretty low and going to come up fast as the supply dries up from those willing to sell.
And wasn’t @smpratte the one that bought that box for $78k…I thought I remembered him making a flex video about it at the time of the sale.
If you’re specifically comparing Charizard to Black Lotus, you have a 56% chance of pulling a Charizard in a Base 1st Booster box vs. 26% chance of pulling a Black Lotus in an Alpha/Beta/Unlimited booster box (and before anyone tries to correct me – yes, I realize there was no Volc in Alpha, but no this doesn’t affect the odds). These numbers are assuming that each pack in a box gives identical odds, which may not have been the case for a few reasons, but these odds are very close to correct if not exactly correct.
So yes, you have a higher chance of pulling a Charizard. But Alpha actually has a much more even distribution of value across packs than in 1st. Ed. Base Set. If you plot the distribution of value in an Alpha box across its 36 packs, the value is much more evenly distributed than in Base Set. In effect: if you gave one Alpha pack to each of two people, the percentage difference between the value of each person’s pack is on average much smaller than if you gave each of them a 1st Ed. Base pack. Put another way: for Alpha, the median pack value is much closer to the mean pack value than it is for 1st Ed. Base Set. The distribution of value across Alpha packs is objectively less skewed. So it’s a less risky proposition, in this sense, to open an Alpha booster pack than an unweighed 1st Ed. Base booster pack.
I’m not saying any of this matters; just setting the record straight on what you said.
Also, in regards to whether or not there are Alpha/Beta booster boxes left: there most certainly are. No one knows the exact number left of each, but it’s almost certainly less than 1st Ed. Base Set.
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My knowledge of MTG is limited. Thanks for clarification. My point was rather that MTG alpha/Beta is 3x more expensive than 1st. My understanding is also that individual packs can be searched as well. Which makes it riskier than buying a heavy pack etc.
I think my main point was really that MTG has somewhat plateaued from a continued interest standpoint, while pokemon is growing exponentially YOY.
Gotcha – yeah, I agree with those points (except Beta being 3x more expensive than 1st Ed. Base – maybe last month, but not now lol).