What are your unpopular opinions in pokemon?

I love the holos from secret wonders, including the three starters… so good

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I think this will definitely be an unpopular opinion, but in the couple interviews I’ve watched with the multi-level marketing founder he seems to have wanted to make a card game for a long time and is passionate about it. I’d also love to pick up a box if it was $100 or something just to have fun ripping packs and seeing if I like it.

The issue is how it was marketed/influenced/hyped up to the point that it has insane pricing this past year or so. Boxes of the first edition are close to $1k and Kickstarter boxes are closing in on $10k. For a year or so old product. With no established IP. It’s ludicrous especially when you compare it to the kinds of pokemon boxes you could get at that price point.

But who the fuck knows, I got my ass handed to me on Tesla puts for years. I’ve learned to stop betting against the hype.

I love how Tesla is insanely overvalued, but you’d have to be insane to bet against it.

All the power to the founder if he’s truly passionate about the game. If it’s blown up (in the advent of Covid induced TCG hype), then all the better for him.

Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion rather than just simply stating facts at this point, but I’ll just go ahead and say it: English is becoming a buyer’s market again. It’s not exactly 2018, but I do think there is more opportunity out there on the English side now than there has been in two years.

I agree. The cheap vintage slabs are cheap again. Modern hits are expensive out of the gate then crash within a month of the set release. The key to this is supply is increasing for both graded cards and modern sets.

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I haven’t seen nearly as much weakness in EX prices, but I 100% agree as it relates to English WotC holos. I sold out of my WotC sets last November after the prices tripled overnight. They’ve retraced to the point where I’m genuinely tempted to buy back in.

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EX is absolutely in a class of its own because of its scarcity, for sure.

I was mainly referring to vintage WOTC. Prices for some cards have gone from not making since in terms of being too lofty to now not making sense for being too low. Of course, the operative word there is “some”; this certainly doesn’t apply to every WOTC card, but for a decent amount of them, I feel the price is too low.

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EX has seen some weakness in raw cards and in the lower grades – it’s really just been the PSA 10s that haven’t budged much :slightly_frowning_face:.

And yeah, it’s very possible the WotC retrace has overshot on some of the higher grade, scarcer cards (namely holos from 1st Ed Neo and e-Series). 1st Ed. Neo holo PSA 9 pops continue to grow very slowly, yet we’ve seen humungous retraces. No one wants to be the one to catch a falling knife, but it’s tough to imagine the knife has that much further to drop for cards like that. Most of EX feels overvalued relatively-speaking, IMHO.

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Are opinions about adjacent franchises outside of Pokemon allowed here? If so, I genuinely feel that Dragon Ball GT is by far the best iteration of any Dragon Ball series. It has all the action, crazy powerups, fighting, and loveable hijinks as all the other series, but it’s in friggin space and on other planets. It’s like Star Trek meets Dragon Ball in some ways. Also, it’s the shortest of any of the Dragon Ball series (only 64 episodes), with a lot less of the awful filler where not much happens and Goku is just powering up for multiple episodes. You could easily watch the entire series over the course of one to two weeks, whereas any of the other Dragon Ball series would take considerably longer than that to get through (mostly because of uneventful nonsense).

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If Pikachu was going to be the Pokemon mascot from the beginning they would have never given it an evolution

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disagree. why give it a devolution then?

Other potential mascots being Charizard, Eevee, etc. are involved in evolution as well.

Unpopular opinion: The unpopular opinion thread has ran its course and probably should end.

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Unpopular opinion: The unpopular opinion thread is the best thread on e4 and should probably stay around indefinitely.

If users like your opinion, it’s a popular one. Some users are good at making that, but not at making good opinions.

teeheeheehee

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FWIW Wikipedia says this of Clefairy:

It was originally proposed to be joint mascot of the Pokémon franchise alongside Pikachu, but was quickly overshadowed by the latter’s popularity. Clefairy was originally considered a “Fairy” Pokémon before the creation of Fairy-type.

This does raise an interesting question though…if we assume what Coop says is true, which Pokémon with no evolutionary line (at the time of Gen 1, so we will include Electabuzz, Magmar etc.) would make the best mascot for the franchise?

Articuno
Chansey
Ditto
Electabuzz
Farfetch’d
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
Jynx
Kangaskhan
Lapras
Lickitung
Magmar
Mew
Mewtwo
Moltres
Mr. Mime
Pinsir
Porygon
Scyther
Snorlax
Tangela
Tauros
Zapdos

I’m going to pick Tauros because it doesn’t get enough love, and if you ignore Mega Evolutions and Legendary Pokémon I think it’s the only one (along with Ditto) that doesn’t have any kind of evolution whatsoever…

Counterpoint: evolution (and its symbolism) is one of Pokémon’s main themes and making the mascot a Pokémon that doesn’t evolve would fly in the face of that.

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every pokemon should have a 3 stage evolution except legends

Yet they’ve done exactly that, at least in the anime, and refuse to let Pikachu evolve

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I said “doesn’t”, but I should have said “can’t”. Pikachu at least still has the ability to evolve, which I think is more important than whether or not it actually does.
If the mascot were something like Tauros or Lapras then you could maybe make the argument that they were going for the “some of us are perfect the way we are” line, but I think just having Pokémon like that conveys that message. Especially Lapras, which is truly a perfect Pokémon.