na theres plenty besides wotc and modern, but any card you can pull from a 4$ pack thats selling for hundreds of dollars raw is not undervalued despite any pack ratios
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I dunno if that’s where I was getting at but okay I guess.
That we need to bring back Collectibles Guru to save Pokemon cards from the price dip
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I’d rather my cards be worth nothing
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as mysteriously as he arrived, he vanished. When we needed him most…
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Sure u would.
Zweilous was better off at going the Cerberus route in evolution as it was leading that way physically. As opposed to Pokémon doing the standard 180 o’c flip of evolution quadro-into-bipedial design continuity and go look at us we finally got a duo dick-wielding excuse for a hydra.
Here is a fresh one: New kick starter “tcg’s” are cash grabs.
Every kick starter I’ve seen is geared towards adults being the first to market on the “next thing”. The design is weak. The games aren’t playable. The focus is purely money. It reminds me of the countless 90s pokemon spinoffs. There was so much flash in the pan garbage back then, I wonder if we will have the same view on all these start ups looking back 5+ years from now.
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I know there’s been a bit of talk on multi-level marketing, but curious what your take on it is (genuinely curious). I’m personally not a fan of the art, but I also haven’t played any TCG games for over a decade or so, so I have no idea what to think.
Seems like there’s a fair amount of support from an adult community (as well as folks like Gary), but also a healthy amount of skepticism and hate.
probably negative. I don’t see even multi-level marketing being seen as positive. the community is so toxic and cant take any criticism IMO
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I agree just pure cash grab. I think apart from magic the gathering most of the other if not all tcg didn’t start off as a tcg just branch out to it.multi-level marketing has no TV show, manga, comic or other type of game, they just went here a random card game could be worth alot of money.
It is a fascinating phenomenon for sure. It’s also somewhat surprising and disappointing to me that so many influencers are promoting these TCGs. I can think of several influencers in the hobby who for whatever reason are completely on board with the kickstarter TCGs. They treat them completely normal, acting as though they are legitimate, even worthy of investment. These are people I otherwise trust, people who otherwise seem very honest. Yet they seem to have a complete lapse in judgment on this one issue. That or they have ulterior motives. It really doesn’t make sense.
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The reason is money. They do not care about the “integrity” of the trading card hobby and if it’s flooded with absolute cash grab garbage because they made their paycheck. They are paid either directly or in free/exclusive product. They pump the free product = they can sell the product for more. The more they pump the more they can sell for or the more they were paid so that the company can sell more. Plus if you only get paid in product you can try to claim “I wasn’t paid for this” or “I have no financial involvement” like some prominent people love to do to make the interest seem less like an ad.
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I like the original three, but I much prefer the gen 3+4 ones. I also absolutely love Decidueye and Cinderace. Greninja is my favorite by far, though. I do agree that Chesnaught and Delphox are ugly, though. It’s sad, because Fennekin is probably my favorite base stage of any starter.
Bingo. Part of the influencers job is to make people forget about the inert predatory nature of the influencer.
Promoting some doomed Ponzi tcg is no different than a garden variety blogger recommending you eat a specific brand of whey protein to burn belly fat. The fact that it is bullshit may be mind-numbingly obvious, but the influencer do everything in their power to fill the air with noise and over-complicate it. In the case of TCG’s, short-term pump and dump experts complicate the issue in the eyes of the victim (aka consumer) because they bring with them the illusion of a flourishing market. This is as textbook as it gets.
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It’s the same thing as art being sold as NFTs. They all get hyped up as being the next best thing, 1st editions, one of ones, etc to drive up the price. At the end of the day, it’s all artificial. Where is the value in any of this? Yeah some of the art in these new TCGs and NFTs are cool, but they’re not even that unique and there’s no history behind them. When your entire basis of purchase is “I really think the price will go up” but you don’t actually care to collect the thing you’re purchasing, and no one else in the same space wants to genuinely collect the stuff either, I feel like that’s a recipe for disaster… especially since these are all just non-essentials at the end of the day. There needs to be more motivation beyond “stonks” for those collecting spaces to hold up or else they’re basically just a bunch of MLMs.
The amount of 0 value collectibles that we’ll be looking back at in 10-20 years will be astounding
Valid points. I just can’t believe some of the big influencers would risk their long-term reputation for a short-term profit; a relatively small one at that. I don’t care how much a kickstarter bribes them, there’s no way it comes close to the value of the positions these people already have in the successful TCGs. Why would someone lie to their audience to increase their net worth by maybe another couple percent? How is that possibly worth it… I personally couldn’t and wouldn’t do it, not even to double or triple my net worth. It wouldn’t be worth what it would do to my conscience, deceiving thousands of people into basically giving me their money.
Here’s an unpopular opinion. Secret Wonders Charizard is a modernish approach on Shadowless Charizard, and it does it so much better than the original did
The bitter truth of it is that they are not risking their long-term reputation, because they are influencers. No-one expects them to have integrity or honesty, no-one cares if they contradict themselves. Lying and drama is second nature to them and it’s literally all about fame and money by any means possible.
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love the era. too CGI for me personally
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