The most undervalued Pokemon cards

[ricdez]

@missingno

@chopstix23

Lv X has to be underappreciated as heck… Silver borders hard to grade. Relatively low popularity point in the genre so probably lower print runs. PSA 10s under $150 USD regularly.

Realistically, who wants level x cards tho???

The artworks on Lv.X cards is amazing, and the way the pokemon pops out of the holo box to give that 3D appearance is nuts! I definitely want to add them to my collection one day.

[bahljs]

I’d be interested to hear some updated thoughts on this thread, too. Any recent thoughts?

[chavycat]

Houndour 1st ed psa 9 holo. That card has consistently sold for under 200 usd. Insanely undervalued in my opinion.

Giovannis persian 1st ed psa 10. The last few sold for between 2.2k_2.4k. It has only a few more psa 10 copies than mistys golduck. It is a cooler card with better artwork in my opinion. Yet it had sold for over 1k less than mistys golduck.

Metal energy 1st ed psa 9. The last two psa 10 copies sold for 2.3k and 2.7k. You can still get psa 9’s fornunder 100 usd. Fkn insane!!

Honestly the whole neo disc set in general. Such great cards and artwork and are all pretty rare in 1st ed psa 10 form

[azulryu]

All Japanese cards during the WOTC era. And then Japanese Unlimited sets that had a 1st Edition variant.

Honestly, Japanese cards overall are undervalued. I feel like we place such an emphasis on secondary rarity (rarity born by condition rather than initial rarity by quantity) that we overlook how good Japanese card quality actually IS.

[bahljs]

@azulryu

All Japanese cards during the WOTC era. And then Japanese Unlimited sets that had a 1st Edition variant.

Honestly, Japanese cards overall are undervalued. I feel like we place such an emphasis on secondary rarity (rarity born by condition rather than initial rarity by quantity) that we overlook how good Japanese card quality actually IS.

This was before the T17 Hype, and it was one of my first educated purchases in the hobby, but the moment I held a Japanese Mint T17 while all others were going for 100x what I paid absolutely SOLD me on Japanese cards. I can’t agree more.

[yz2428]

@chavycat

Houndour 1st ed psa 9 holo. That card has consistently sold for under 200 usd. Insanely undervalued in my opinion.

Giovannis persian 1st ed psa 10. The last few sold for between 2.2k_2.4k. It has only a few more psa 10 copies than mistys golduck. It is a cooler card with better artwork in my opinion. Yet it had sold for over 1k less than mistys golduck.

Metal energy 1st ed psa 9. The last two psa 10 copies sold for 2.3k and 2.7k. You can still get psa 9’s fornunder 100 usd. Fkn insane!!

Honestly the whole neo disc set in general. Such great cards and artwork and are all pretty rare in 1st ed psa 10 form

The issue with energy cards is that it’s not as popular for collectors. You see this with the gym trainer holofoils in gym challenge and gym heroes. Brock can command 2k in psa 10, but barely 200 in 9.

[chavycat]

@yz2428

@chavycat

Houndour 1st ed psa 9 holo. That card has consistently sold for under 200 usd. Insanely undervalued in my opinion.

Giovannis persian 1st ed psa 10. The last few sold for between 2.2k_2.4k. It has only a few more psa 10 copies than mistys golduck. It is a cooler card with better artwork in my opinion. Yet it had sold for over 1k less than mistys golduck.

Metal energy 1st ed psa 9. The last two psa 10 copies sold for 2.3k and 2.7k. You can still get psa 9’s fornunder 100 usd. Fkn insane!!

Honestly the whole neo disc set in general. Such great cards and artwork and are all pretty rare in 1st ed psa 10 form

The issue with energy cards is that it’s not as popular for collectors. You see this with the gym trainer holofoils in gym challenge and gym heroes. Brock can command 2k in psa 10, but barely 200 in 9.

I think Brock is still undervalued as well. Just not as much as metal energy. So I left it out

[jeremypadawer]

1. Trainer Decks. Low pop. Of critical importance to the brand. Over the top valuable in the long term.
2. Pikachu 1995-1999. Japanese and English version. One of the most identifiable characters in the world.
3. Charizard 1995-1999. Japanese version. English so well celebrated. Huge deals here. TopSun are phenomenal yet primitive. Love those. Carddass, Meiji also of note.
4. TopSun 1995 deck / graded cards.
5. Japanese 1996 true rookie deck / graded cards.

My big 5. Not necessarily THE big 5. But my focus.

[qwachansey]

@jeremypadawer

1. Trainer Decks. Low pop. Of critical importance to the brand. Over the top valuable in the long term.
2. Pikachu 1995-1999. Japanese and English version. One of the most identifiable characters in the world.
3. Charizard 1995-1999. Japanese version. English so well celebrated. Huge deals here. TopSun are phenomenal yet primitive. Love those. Carddass, Meiji also of note.
4. TopSun 1995 deck / graded cards.
5. Japanese 1996 true rookie deck / graded cards.

My big 5. Not necessarily THE big 5. But my focus.

This list seemed familiar, then I realized it was your buy thread

[jeremypadawer]

@qwachansey

@jeremypadawer

1. Trainer Decks. Low pop. Of critical importance to the brand. Over the top valuable in the long term.
2. Pikachu 1995-1999. Japanese and English version. One of the most identifiable characters in the world.
3. Charizard 1995-1999. Japanese version. English so well celebrated. Huge deals here. TopSun are phenomenal yet primitive. Love those. Carddass, Meiji also of note.
4. TopSun 1995 deck / graded cards.
5. Japanese 1996 true rookie deck / graded cards.

My big 5. Not necessarily THE big 5. But my focus.

This list seemed familiar, then I realized it was your buy thread

LOL! You’re right! Walk the walk.

[1steditionbs]

@azulryu

All Japanese cards during the WOTC era. And then Japanese Unlimited sets that had a 1st Edition variant.

Honestly, Japanese cards overall are undervalued. I feel like we place such an emphasis on secondary rarity (rarity born by condition rather than initial rarity by quantity) that we overlook how good Japanese card quality actually IS.

I agree with you on this. Especially Japanese Neo Genesis. I can’t remember the last time a PSA 10 Slowking (1st and Unlimited) went on sale, but I’m sure people would spend thousands on one. I scooped up a Japanese PSA 10 Slowking for $120. Considering that English Neo Genesis is extremely hard to grade, buyingthe Japanese counterpart for SIGNIFICANTLY less is a no brainer.

[arkhive]

I think the Japanese sets up to Split Earth/Mysterious Mountains aren’t undervalued per se but they do have a lot of room to grow. I think as the hobby grows, the English copies will become more and more out of reach in those PSA 9/10 copies, whether it be price or just population. At that point, people can move towards either raw/lower grades/unlimited or if they still want that condition premium they can move towards Japanese cards. In addition, if you don’t value the language but the art, Japanese/other languages are a good, cheaper alternative for you. There’s also a natural bias for people in English-speaking countries to prefer English cards. But if the TCG becomes more and more global I could see more people seriously considering Japanese cards as much as English, though I think English will always have an edge.

On a personal note, I think this is one of the most fascinating areas of the hobby going forward. I think it’s safe to say collecting Pokemon cards and grading them has been an American-dominated area. However, PSA opened up an office in Japan a year or so ago and I think that’s a very interesting development. Shipping anywhere in the world is a fairly straightforward thing all things considered so I’d be very interested to see how the hobby grows in the world over the next 10 to 20 years. The fact that modern sets are being printed in many different languages is a hugely promising sign to me regarding the hobby’s future health.

Disclaimer: Not an economist or trained in finance, also collect Japanese cards. Had too much time on my hands today.

[mixduo]

Relative to charizards, I think firered leafgreen charizard ex is undervalued. It baffles me that its PSA price is comparative to burning shadows rainbow zard, given it is such an old card. It has amazing artwork. I’ve been looking on ebay for a raw mint copy for months now and they rarely pop up.

[kpod]

@arkhive

I think the Japanese sets up to Split Earth/Mysterious Mountains aren’t undervalued per se but they do have a lot of room to grow. I think as the hobby grows, the English copies will become more and more out of reach in those PSA 9/10 copies, whether it be price or just population. At that point, people can move towards either raw/lower grades/unlimited or if they still want that condition premium they can move towards Japanese cards. In addition, if you don’t value the language but the art, Japanese/other languages are a good, cheaper alternative for you. There’s also a natural bias for people in English-speaking countries to prefer English cards. But if the TCG becomes more and more global I could see more people seriously considering Japanese cards as much as English, though I think English will always have an edge.

On a personal note, I think this is one of the most fascinating areas of the hobby going forward. I think it’s safe to say collecting Pokemon cards and grading them has been an American-dominated area. However, PSA opened up an office in Japan a year or so ago and I think that’s a very interesting development. Shipping anywhere in the world is a fairly straightforward thing all things considered so I’d be very interested to see how the hobby grows in the world over the next 10 to 20 years. The fact that modern sets are being printed in many different languages is a hugely promising sign to me regarding the hobby’s future health.

Disclaimer: Not an economist or trained in finance, also collect Japanese cards. Had too much time on my hands today.

I’ve actually enjoyed the challenge of trying to track down old Japanese promos and grading them myself. Definitely more scarce and not as popular as English, but some have amazing, unique artwork exclusive to their release and the PSA pops are still pretty low. Not sure if it’s because values are still relatively low so people don’t think clean copies are worth grading, or if it’s because there truly are few copies worthy of an 8 or higher?

[neverforget50in07]

I feel like english southern islands set is undervalued.

[kpod]

@neverforget50in07

I feel like english southern islands set is undervalued.

It’s had quite the growth the last 6 months, Mew in a 9 has gone up some 1000%. I swear it was only $50 a copy earlier this year

[joer]

A lot of people have said it already. The early japanese promos are fantastic. I think a lot of coro coro cards are also really great.

[Pbali]

@neverforget50in07

I feel like english southern islands set is undervalued.

The binders at 1000 were hilariously undervalued if you just did some basic math on what the packs inside were worth and the average psa 9 price. I bought basically every sealed binder on the market in mid june when I realized it.

[kpod]

@Pbali

@neverforget50in07

I feel like english southern islands set is undervalued.

The binders at 1000 were hilariously undervalued if you just did some basic math on what the packs inside were worth and the average psa 9 price. I bought basically every sealed binder on the market in mid june when I realized it.

Were they at $1000 in June? Seems like just recently they were $500

[Pbali]

@kpod

@Pbali

The binders at 1000 were hilariously undervalued if you just did some basic math on what the packs inside were worth and the average psa 9 price. I bought basically every sealed binder on the market in mid june when I realized it.

Were they at $1000 in June? Seems like just recently they were $500

They were about $500 early in the year and were more consistently selling around $750 up until the last few months. I did see one guy list a bunch for $500 in early June that got bought out instantly.