THE Great Grading Results Thread

The blastoise image is up and honestly an 8 is pretty fair for that, if the other 8s are similar, it makes sense. Its OC enough to not be a 10 and has enough whitening to drop it to an 8. I guess it COULD be a 9 in some instances, but I think it looks like a solid 8.

I know its not entirely helpful, but sometimes we ignore certain things on a sub when we feel we are right and once the cards come back, it makes a little more sense. I think we’ve all done it.

EDIT: Im dumb and mis-clicked the reply and have no idea how to change it, sorry @parkermrparker meant for @brendantheclayboy

Scans from PSA seem to be up, so you can take a look for youself. From what I can tell the shadowless holos look like average 8/9’s with some of the cleanest getting a 10. This is the kind of horror story that keeps me up at night!

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Based on the scans that Blastoise should be 9 unless there’s more damage that’s not visible on the scans.

I’m sorry to hear this. That’s a rough go of it, and makes me a little leery about doing a PSA sub myself.

Do you happen to have the cert number for the Jungle Vaporeon you mentioned that was played and got a 7? Maybe I’m blind but I only saw a Flareon and Clefable from Jungle on your posted list. I’m curious to see how that compares to your other 7’s, and I’m just curious about your thoughts on the cards in general when they come back.

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I’m so sorry to hear about this @brendantheclayboy . I sent in two orders in the bulk submission, one with about 45 cards, another with 100 (basically everything else I had left). I got my first submission back and was so disappointed. Like you, got a lot of pack fresh 7s and 8s. I’m going to keep a Jolteon Vmax alt art that graded a 7.5 as a reminder. I didn’t think it was possible to get such bad grades on what I sent in. Had a couple cards damaged too (dog gold stars, so not the greatest, but I was still excited about them).

I regretted so much sending in the second submission when I got that first one back. Moped around for a while.

But then! I got my second submission back and got the grades I was expecting. Mostly 10s and 9s, with no upcharges either. Included my now pride and joy crystal ho oh which came back as a 9.

What I’m taking away from this is I will very likely not be submitting any orders greater than 30 cards at a time. Even if I do get stuck with someone who is overly conservative, it spreads out the risk.

Sorry again for your results, but I hope there are better grading days ahead.

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I took a look at several of the PSA 7 shadowless holos. I agree that most should be 8’s rather than 7’s. It is possible that there is significant surface scratching on the back or non-holo portion of the cards that we cannot see. But pending that, this type of wear is pretty unusual for a 7.

Just got my grades back. Some insane stuff for me, currently dying over the Charizard Mega Battle Greninja…I cracked that out of a CGC 8.

Plus the Play! Pokemon exclusive non-holo Greninja V managed to pull a 10 as well!! :scream:

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Blaziken was a 9 and jr pika was a 6. Sudo was a 9. 2/3 on regrades is fine by me but Sudo gona be a 10 one of these days

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Ahh oh man I forgot they scan cards after making grades avail. I will say, some of those scans are freaking me out. Nidoking for example, those scratches better be the case. That card looks annihilated and I will go insane if they damaged a card even half… a quarter that badly. And yeah, just confirms to me, in the case of non holos, that this grader was clown. 10 quality cards getting 8’s, perfect 9’s getting 7’s.

@joetehman, I really don’t know what whitening you’re seeing. That Blastoise back was nearly perfect, barely so much as even corner cut dots. That’s a 10 looking back on most days. The other shadowless are all 7’s, and believe me, all but a few are in the same condition. It’s ridiculous. I know what you’re saying, but I know the condition of the cards in this instance. I pregraded a few of the shadowless as 8’s, but really like an 8/9 split for half, other half 9’s. Again, the biggest shock and testament to this craziness is actually the non holos. Tell me how this is not a 9 (disclaimer, no one could because it is a pearl condition wise):

shadowless porygon

10 quality centering? Of course not. But pristine pack fresh surface, and almost perfect back corner cut wise. This quality of pack fresh card gets 9’s all day every day 99.9% of the time, with that 0.1% being grader like this guy. This Porygon is testimony that half the order graded by this person is garbage and erroneous.

Thanks a lot @camrok37, appreciate it my dude. Absolutey–I didn’t picture every item, the next page was more yugioh and a few last minute slip ins, including the Vaporeon.

jungle vaporeon

Tbf, when I said played, I didn’t mean heavily. I would sell it on my ebay as a lightly played card. But still, the point is that it was very scratched on the holo from wear, and got the same grade as some cards that had none, or had but a print line. I always like to include a few weak cards in the event I get the opposite of this grader, a lenient one who gives a card a +1 from pregrade. I actually pregraded Vap a 7.

Thanks a lot @Will! Well I’m glad your second round made up for it. Hopefully that will happen to me. I mean, this is an outlier after all, odds are very in my favor, and these cards have to be cracked and graded correctly anyway (I mean, did you see that f’ing porygon?!). Thanks for sharing that amigo. Congrats on the crystal ho-oh btw!, that’s legendary and with no upcharges that’s absolute insanity and more than makes up for it. I mean jesus they upcharged my 8 blastoise. wtf haha. I agree with you, smaller batches are well worth the time and shipping. Well, well worth it.

@Dyl, the only scratching on those cards would be damage caused by PSA, save for a few that I pregraded the 8. Surely you read my OP. I make the disclaimer about my condition assessment because I’d like to avoid anyone potentially implying I’m bullshitting everyone and myself and I don’t know how to gauge condition. Both your posts kinda seem to do that, but I could be mistaken. Significant scratching? Would hope you are definitely implying that which was caused by PSA, which if that happened of course, this whole thing’s a sham either way.

When I crack certain cards like the absolute 10 worthy Misty’s Golduck that got an 8 (hard card to grade I know, but it was that clean), I’ll be happy to show just how undeserved the majority of these grades are. Cause why not. I’m just most angry at the non holo pack fresh mint (and often 10 worthy) cards, my slowbros, etc, getting 8’s, or even 7’s. The shadowless Gary is the most offensive shadowless holo. Really a beautiful mint card. For it to be given a 7, just like with shadowless pory, is all the proof needed that sometimes graders just make things up in their head or just want to give bad grades. This cardboard is not cheap to grade, it’s an outrage if you have so many blatant and unfounded misgrades, some off by 2 grades even.

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I totaly understand your frustration, bummer man.
Maybe the grader only graded modern cards and your batch was his first batch of older cards. That’s what it feels like to me.

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I actually just graded 2 base porygon 7s. I had pre-graded them an 7/8 so it was expected but they look way worse than yours. I’m sorry BobTheGrader69 did you dirty.

https://www.psacard.com/cert/68831344/psa
https://www.psacard.com/cert/68831345/psa

Like others mentioned I’d say to break out submissions into smaller orders to spread out risk. Complete speculation but I think a focused order would be more likely to be graded by someone who specializes in those cards.

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very unbased of PSA

at least they graded my eye poke porygon

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Wait, they grade Poke-eye-mon??

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Is BGS just easy graders on back centering? I don’t understand why this is a 9.5 centering?


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Leonhart did a small series on BGS crack/resubmit and I do not believe that he ever received the same subgrades. Ever. :upside_down_face:

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They allow 60/40 on the back for 9.5 centering, but that looks to be pushing the limit of 60/40 to me. Guess they missed it or its 60/40 on the dot.

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I did a little measuring and based on the pic (although not perfectly straight), the back centering seems to be 65/35, so I assume they must have missed it.

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Astral Radiance #4 PSA 9

Astral Radiance #5 PSA 8

Majestic Dawn PSA 8

Majestic Dawn PSA 9

Lost Thunder PSA 10

This makes me 2 cards shy of my Scyther goal! I just need Astral Radiance #5 and Boundaries Crossed PSA 9 or better. Cracked a 9.5 CGC Boundaries Crossed and submitted to PSA so I think I should just have one more sub for now until the new Scarlet Violet Scyther releases in English.

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Only named Scyther cards? Or would you consider the newly released Tarountula AR and Spidops SAR necessary additions?

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Felt like sharing here probably my first successful cross grading card.
On November, I sent a signed card lot for grading, and some of the grades were in my opinion very harsh, specially this Charizard:


Before cracking the slab for the signing event, it was a CGC 7.5. As you can see by the scans, corners and edges are very very good, and the holo has a slight scratch. When it came back as a PSA 6 I was pretty disappointed as I really thought it deserved better.

I cracked the slab, and sent it to BAS for authenticating + grading service.
This is the result:


Overall grade 8, and as I said very good edges and corners (9 grade) and 7 surface( the holo is pretty good, but that slight scratch)

Happy with the decision of cross grading, and disappointed on how strict is currently PSA, this Charizard never deserved a PSA 6, my latest 3 submissions from the last quarter of 2022 have all been graded very very strictly, will have to reconsider next time before submitting.

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