SWSH 12.5 Crown Zenith / VSTAR Universe Discussion Thread

I find it interesting that everyone immediately jumped to resealed instead of being open to the idea that production mistakes can happen and they were just unlucky.

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In 2022, bad pulls = resealed. :brain:

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If bad pulls = resealed… every ETB I’ve ever opened has been resealed :joy::joy:

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It’s not even a joke, I see people with good pulls asking if their modern product was fake or resealed.

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I was thinking the same. People don’t automatically assume factory errors they pull from a pack are fake because eveyone understands the production process isn’t perfect. But the default assumption is ā€œ100% tamperedā€ in this case. Likewise if you got more pulls than what you should expect, it becomes good luck and of course is not just a botched tampering job.

Or the guy could just be lying! Or maybe they are indeed a victim of an actual reseal. All three options are pretty rare events so it’s not clear to me why it has to 100% be one of the three explanations.

I read the comments last night and they never mentioned where the box came from unfortunately. Probably the most critical piece of information

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For what it’s worth, not to fuel paranoia but another video mentioning this topic, this time from Rusty.

*Also, for what it’s worth, he mentions the video posted above towards the end of his own video. I assume he speaks from some experience but perhaps he is just restating the info in that video.

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He made a similar video about Eevee Heroes and I’ve yet to hear any widespread, legitimate issues from anyone else.

I’ve been buying Eevee Heroes in every print run, from multiple Japanese sellers and never once had a reseal in any of the batches I purchased. I realize that’s anecdotal, but as far as I can tell, so are the few claims people have made, such as in this video.

I get that reseals happen, but these videos are a huge contributor to the mass worry from buyers who think every box is a reseal when it’s almost certainly not.

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Not only are reseals an exception, there is an easy solution: buy from a reputable business. Numerous businesses get product directly from distributors (like that smpratte guy). It completely solves the issue.

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I agree in general but it becomes Increasingly harder depending on where you life. I get that it’s quite easy to get the product fairly safe and reasonably priced when you live in the US. But for example in Europe it’s quite hard to get VStar Universe from a reputable source without paying 100+€.
Please correct me if I am wrong. If you know any reputable EU sellers with reasonable pricing, I would love to buy from them till the end of days.

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A tale as old as time! The issue for eu are their crazy import laws. Japanese businesses inherently have the lowest cost. Even for the us who doesn’t have import duties, it’s not possible to compete with Japan’s cost, hence the difference in price. And why no seller in the eu can import large quantities of boxes and sell them at Japanese prices.

A reprint might help a bit, but importing into Europe has always been mission impossible. It’s why boxes there are so much more expensive, because there isn’t a consistent way to import them at a low cost.

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Aren’t boxes in the US selling between $100 and $110?
In Europe you can also easily get them for around €100 so I don’t really see the problem here…

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I get your point but I don’t know. 3-4x the MSRP for a standard set is a bit of a problem to me.

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there will be more. if you’re worried about the price and failed to find it close to MSRP (or at a cost that you find acceptable), just be patient. there will be more waves and the price for sealed boxes from reputable stores will drop

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Well actually to be fair, it is hard/more expensive EVERYWHERE but in USA.

In South America you end paying up to 20-50% of the price of the product depending on the shop, sometimes you don’t even get reprint waves.

I get a little bit of envy on how easy is to buy stuff from around the world in USA, if i wanna order something from Japan i gotta be prepared to pay 30% of the cost of the product+shipping fees to import it here.

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It’s not a standard set though, it’s a high class set. High class sets typically always sell for more. Also, this is easily one of the best sets ever released. I sold over 200 boxes in 48 hours. Pokemon needs to print a metric ton to move the price down.

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MSRP is a meaningless number. The ā€œretail priceā€, a Japanese store is ā€œsuggestedā€ to charge doesn’t mean much if you are importing the product internationally and operating on the secondary market

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To me, this is a yes and no. Yes, because the market dictates the value and this can inflate quite a lot. No, because it is a good indicator for me to see how much stores charge extra in addition to the normal price, shipping and import cost. There you can see if this is a reasonable price or basically scalping. Especially when a set is still in print.

The thing with new Japanese boxes is they typically always sell above MSRP. Where English is the opposite, historically most new boxes sell below MSRP ($143).

Each language represents the arbitrariness of MSRP from opposite ends; it’s artificially low with Japanese and artificially high with English.

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I know this is a discussion about the international price of Japanese boxes but just want to chime in and say MSRP 5500 yen boxes aren’t exactly a cheap purchase for people in Japan. That’s why people complain about the supply situation of boxes in Japan. There’s supply but the price is inflated even more than what it used to be, so seeing international buyers drop $100 (13,000 yen?) on a single Japanese box is a bit WTF.

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Maybe TPC forced TPCi to adopt Japanese standards because people in Japan, who the JP cards are for, can’t get their hands on them.

Hopefully they decided to share the damn textures too and end this discrepancy once and for all.