Is the 800 to 1000 cad dollar box price on ebay going to last? Or will it come down when every reseller drops there boxes on ebay?
Well next release will be lotto only for both the Eevee box and booster boxes.
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Was this confirmed? Mind giving a source? Iāll take the lotto every day of the week.
The damage is already done in my view. Iād rather ignore the set completely than queue up for rations.
Here is a screenshot of someone on Twitter thanking one of the bot creators as the bot they used allowed them to put through at least 20 pre-orders. Iāve blurred out their name and the tags as I donāt want to advertise the service:
Thatās just one person blocking at least 19 other people from putting orders through.
In my view there are only three options to combat this:
- PokƩmon Center Japan improve their website to make it a lot harder to use bots / bypass the 1 per account restriction;
- PokƩmon raise their prices across board to make it less lucrative to try to buyout the entire stock in one go;
- The community band together to ignore products affected in this way, ultimately reducing the resallability of the product.
All of these have glaring holes though: itās not in PokĆ©monās interest to implement #1 as itād mean a slower trickle of money and both #2 and #3 will have a negative impact on the handful of people who did mange to purchase the set ālegitimatelyā - I put that in quotes as I donāt think thereās really anything in PokĆ©monās ToS to say hey, donāt buy out all our stock using bots.
For me Iām no longer interested in this set. It looks like it has great artwork and Iām sure a lot of you will get a lot of enjoyment out of it, but Iād rather focus on existing sets than sets which are now almost entirely in the hands of people who are purely set out to make a quick profit from PokĆ©mon.
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This is how i feel as well which is sad since i have been really excited about this set since we first heard about it in February.(my megathread was a little preemptive & died xD)
I have gone from waiting up until 2am on a weekday to pre-order 1 box to enjoy to not wanting to buy any product at all, no way i am giving these botters any of my money.
This is becoming a common problem with modern for me, I have missed so much of Sword & Shield because of this kind of behaviour.
At least they are not going after vintage though:D
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I think they *might* be canceling some of the orders that are identified as having been placed by bots.
Tonight Iāve seen a few of the items get relisted as āin stockā for a few minutes before they go back to āout of stock.ā
Also, when I logged into my account, the captcha required three inputs rather than the usual one.
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Thatās great news. I really hope thatās what theyāre doing.
I remember what it felt like to pay retail, or only a slight upcharge. Iām not paying vintage prices for modern product.
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Since many are showing off their Botās usage in public isnāt it possible to report them to someone/something? Sure the Pokemon Company gets flooded with money, but they also seem to care a little about their customers (at least in Japan) therefore they probably donāt want to have too many angry customers.
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Bots are, unfortunately, an ever-growing problem in todayās online marketplaces. Anyone who follows the sneaker or GPU market knows how prevalent these bots are. Fact is, unless you have a bot, you will lose out on getting limited release product 100% of the time to someone who does bot. Pokemon needs to take the financial incentive away from botting by printing future sets into the ground. As long as there is scarcity for a product, there will always be the financial incentive to bot up the entire supply.
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Now the product pages for the items that were sold out have a note indicating that they will be made available at a later date via lottery.
Iām guessing that many of bot orders will be canceled between now and the ship date.
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We may not see change until the community in large becomes fatiguedā¦ or companies finally figures out this is bad for their image but not before they make their money, which is unfortunate. 
I remember the Amiibo drought in college, and camping out for a freakinā Lucina amiibo for 14 hours just to make sure. Or the more recent āsneaker botsā as theyāve been dubbed, buying out addidas and nikes before actual people can even view the page.
So, is a topic of discussion in cybersec ATM, because it IS a cybersecurity risk. The best solutions retailers have implemented are basically crap that they couldāve done in the 70s. Itās 20 freakinā 21. They are perfectly able to put some money into implementing anti-bot measures, but instead they do things that basically ask consumers to risk their highly valuable time on a whiff. I donāt mean to rant on TPC, itās not just their fault. I wouldnāt expect them to be retail market pioneers, but the whole retail assoc or whatever, should get together and address this truly BS problem. Itās not that difficult from an engineering PoV. The issue is simply that online-retail standards and practices have been absurdly low for a long time.
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$150 a booster box? Pass.
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If you would like to see this in action check twitter on Saturday mornings of a release. Almost Guarantee āSNKRS Appā is always trending for everyone that missed out.
Unfortunately itās pretty difficult to just āpassā on a card/set/whatever because of scalpers if itās something that really excites you. That ćØć¼ćć£ promo is my favorite card in years and one of my favorites of all time. I wish there was a feasible solution for the Pokemon company. I think printing more would be a good start. I donāt mean printing into the ground and ruining the appeal of a ālimitedā product, but if a $113 box is being resold for $999, youāve got too tight of a chokehold on supply from the get go.
Another step might be to just increase the price on their end. $113 is nothing for whatās in that box, it doesnāt make any sense to NOT scalp it. Maybe if it were $113 for the promo and a deck box, without all the boosters ā¦ or with all the boosters but it was like $300. Not that I think $300 for some childrenās playing cards is entirely appropriate either, but maybe it would correct the supply and demand a bit.
idk, I just know I want that card. boo.
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I think we should also take into account that itās something designed to be sold in Japan while thereās way too many buyers/scalpers/whatever from outside of Japan that have found numerous ways of buying something limkted to japanese people.
Theyāll have to take into account the number of āāexternalāā buyers, but it takes time to plan this stuff for a big company, also I think they are reacting quite fast with at least using a lottery to sell the product.
Raising the price will probably make it even more desirable. They could raise the supply to take into account the demand, even if itās something somewhat limited in theory.
From a consumer perspective weād need to unite and stop paying those prices, but itās impossible to unify everyone under this idea. Atm this is the game weāre in, longterm who knows how the economy, debt, reselling and so will unfold >.<
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Itās actually one of the easiest things to do.
PASS.
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Silly question, why canāt bots create thousands of lottery tickets as it were?
