I’m a little confused about this card. I was told there are multiple people ready to buy a PSA 10 for $40,000 anytime they are available
Theres now 3 available on the market.
One is listed high
One seems reasonable $45,000 … willing to accept 40,000. But no one is biting
The other is graded a 10, in a new holder - which has a financial guarantee, but is stated to be less than a 10 by its owner. (No idea whats going on there)
Now we have one with a slight crack in the case end at $36,000.
I wanted the card for $33,000 friends and family, (the same as a $38,000 ebay sale) but was told i was basically out to lunch - and maybe I still am)
The one that just ended for 36k, is that card in passable condition? Is the $45,000 listing in passable condition? Whats making these 2 fail to be quick buys?
Really just trying to understand, anyone that can help is appreciated:)
The one that was just auctioned had a crack in the PSA case that was over the card. If I recall correctly from my non-exhaustive knowledge of PSA, a case with a crack that is over the card cannot simply be submitted through the recase process and actually has to be regraded. Since it’s already been graded a 10 the risk is certainly smaller, but if I were in the market for this card and willing to dish out 40k+ to make it happen, an issue like that would be a dealbreaker. Honestly I think 36k was quite the price for a card like that.
Especially when you are talking about high-end cards, eBay fees do not matter. You are never going to get the card for 7k less than an established sale. I personally know that these trade hands at or above 40k privately. I do not know specific info about the 45k card but I do recall some discussion about there being issues with it. Perhaps @garyis2000 can enlighten you on this one, he is the Charizard king!
I’ll second your first sentence: there are multiple people willing and able to buy good PSA 10 cards at 40k. I think if you want this card you will need to offer at least that much.
All three of those cards have strikes against them which is why I’ve left them alone at their asking prices. To put that into context, I would pay 40-50k for a medium or better 10.
Don’t worry about the 6-12 month trend for these, worry about what will happen in 3+ years. Sometimes the market is just soft.
The one which just ended was an auction in Australia, if you want to consider that price low you can point to the fact that it was in Australia. I can imagine the distance, shipping times, taxes. etc. and decreased visibility probably had a hand to play it that.
Don’t think in terms of a set “retail” price. You need to have a range you’re willing to pay if you genuinely are in the market for one of these.
There’s a big difference between asking to buy something and trying to sell something in terms if who has the edge in negotiating.
Naturally if you’re trying to convince someone to part with an item you will probably have to make a convincing offer.
If you put something expensive on auction you also have to realize the perfect buyer may not be ready or may just not find your item within the allotted auction time. Also in an auction, the buyer pays the second highest bid. So it is very possible the highest bid was actually over 40k
What is the strike against the one listed for 45k? It looks fine. And the owner sends pictures without the black bar if you ask
Even with the card on bids, it is a risk - but the case crack is pretty superficial (the card itself looks good), is that case crack risk the only thing making it a “soft” psa 10?
Seems like a lot of variables for what should be a consistent grade
With regard to the cracked one, most buyers would not want to keep it in a cracked case. Therefore they would be on the hook to get it regraded, and with PSA you never know if it would return after regrading as a 10 or not. If not, you’re out a lot of money as the price drop in value is pretty significant between a 9 and 10. So the regrade gamble is something that probably scared off potential buyers.
I too would be curious what the case is against the $45k one?
The spots of white are still in the PSA 10 standards.
PSA 10s are not free from all flaws.
I looked through the PWCC auction listing to try to identify how drastic those white spots were. A lot have them - even the one listed at 75k on eBay. As well as the two i’ve seen in person.
If thats the reason, are the top 25% of PSA 10 Charizards 40k? and the rest, in the 30-35 range?
When we are talking about this amount of money, people start to become smart enough to buy the card not the grade. Don’t get too fixated on the term ‘PSA 10’
