PSA 10 1st Edition Charizard

I don’t think you’re going to get the straight detailed answer you are looking for since we are talking about a very small pool of buyers here that don’t tend to be outspoken or really involved in general community. All of them have their own reasons for buying or not buying a particular copy.

A small number and infrequent sales means high variability in final auction prices. We can’t really ask all potential buyers why or why not they are passing on particular copies. I would be interested to hear from more people who are actually currently seeking this card reply in this thread.

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I get that, It’s more apparent in Pokemon for sure. That being said - the one in auction… did it look over graded? Or is it just because of the case? Does anyone have a picture of one that is worthy of 40k, so I can try to determine what is good enough. I honestly just don’t know. Every single one I’ve been presented has been ridiculed in some way (5 so far)

The crack in the case would have negatively affected the final price without a question. Why didn’t you bid on it?

I did bid on it.

That being said, no one is answering my questions… was that auction a strong copy, looking past the crack ( it didn’t effect the card, atleast from the pictures), and if it isn’t is there a picture of a strong copy I can reference.

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A strong 10 is one with good centering, no holofoil scratches and no whitening on the back. to quote a recent smpratte Q&A - Figure it out :wink:

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Its a normal 10. Not enough to get a bgs 10 but not bad that people would say its borderline 9/10.

People will say market value is what one off private transactions go for, usually highest price paid (true for trophy cards) but this doesnt apply for cards where multiple auctions have occured.

One impatient person doesnt create market price when 6-7 consistent prices have occured.

I had a couple reasons to want it even though it wasn’t the best example.

  1. I was the original grader
    And
  2. I have the serial numbers before and after it.

So, for those reasons, it held more value to me but the question is, how much? I’d be comfortable at 32k and only for those two reasons. Remember, I got rid of it in the first place and kept the others for a reason…condition. It was simply weak on the spectrum. It’s been so many years I don’t recall the exact specifics though.

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This reply scares me.

The community isn’t able to help an individual out on its largest most marketable card.

and people like the post?

Theres replies and replies on a lot of trivial posts, but asking about a PSA 10 gets snark remarks.

Anyways, I understand - there is no reference - no understanding of what is a 40k zard.

Perfect centering, perfect holo, and no whitening is describing a Pristine 10, an almost impossible card.

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Can those of you who replied in this thread, who actually hold a PSA 10 1st Charizard, provide high-quality scans of your so-called pristine copies so we can compare them to the $45,000 copy listed? Curious to see the difference you guys are talking about.

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What you are asking is simply unanswerable. It’s a common trend/problem right now in the hobby. I get people are passionate, but some just constantly want non-stop answers and information to situations that don’t always have one. Hence the tongue and cheek response “figure it out” (which is a reference to letterkenny btw).

Tl;dr The card has sold at 40k more than not. Any card value can vary for numerous reasons: condition, provenance, seller, location, timing, etc. It’s literally impossible to give you one answer.

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Fair enough,

that could be it, theres alternative explanations as well.

I haven’t had one answer (more so around the bush answers), but I get what you mean.

To end my conversation here, and I’m being genuine - since you know your stuff.

Can you pinpoint any issues with the cracked case Charizard? The card itself, is it passable as a 40k card, if not for the crack?

The question is a sincere one, you can clearly see the card. Any potential surprises are a different conversation (and thats what scares people)

Cracked cases = ungraded. Not only does it decrease consumer confidence, but submitting it for a Re-holder requires a re-grade when its cracked. Therefore even if it’s fine, it’s added risk and Psa doesn’t treat it as a graded card.

I was watching the auction myself considering buying it. Same with the other two on the market, here are my reasons for passing

  1. The $37k one - the seller cant even simply answer a single question from me
  2. The $45k one - white dots on the corners make it a weak 10 to me - still very reasonable
  3. The $36k one from the auction - it looks to be a nice PSA 10, but the crack is less than desirable and I didnt want to risk PSA not-recasing it as a 10.

The auction was the best option for me until a guy I reached out to had 5 different ones for me to choose from. He provided photos of all and then I chose the thick stamped strong 10 out of the lot for $40k. The deal is not finalized yet, but just waiting on the final payment to finish to do so. To me that was a better option that the 3 that have been mentioned and the price was only marginally higher. Less risk for a card I plan to keep in my personal collection.

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This is the type of reply I was looking for, thank you so much.

Cheers. Congrats!