Prismatic Evolutions SV8.5 Market Discussion: A recipe to create Evolving Skies 2 situation?

I’m extremely worried about Prismatic Evolutions. Everything is out of stock and, after the first opening videos in YouTube, pull rates seem to suck. Here a little recap of PokeRev firsts openings:

  • ETBs do not guarantee ANYTHING except the Eevee Promo.
  • He has opened around ~50 packs. His best hit was a SR, no SAR or Gold UR.
  • Master Ball Reverse Holos are very rare, but not that rare.
  • Normal ex cards are also rare.

Reminder this sets contain 49 secret rares, with 32 SAR cards that include all Eeveelutions including Umbreon & an Eevee SAR. Also there is an UR Pikachu.

Also this set introduces PokeBall & MasterBall reverses holo to English, featuring also all the Eeveelutions, Eevee and fan-favourites Suicune and Groudon, plus many relevant Pokémon like Riolu, Larvitar, Miltank, Regigigas, Houndoom, Heatran…

Low Pull Rates + Scarcity = worst scenario than Evolving Skies. That SAR Umbreon and Master Ball Reverse Umbreon are going to go crazy…

Also, remember everything is Out of Stock and overpriced, and the set hasn’t even come out yet.

What are your thoughts?

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I am taking a breath and not going after singles for awhile. The set releases in different products atleast until September 2025, and likely will see something similar to Crown Zenith and 151 where Sam’s Club or Costco gets a big box of it.

Plus with Journey Together, the Rocket set, and the future Mega evolution set, attention will be spread out.

No need to panic, and mentioning that Umbreon will be high only puts fear in other people and drives the price further up

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Will also add Japanese singles are “cheap” for what they are. So there are alternatives to English such as Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc.

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It is going to be scary and I hope people don’t get harmed on release. It is going to be a total BLOOD BATH, that I might not even bother going to stores to get product. Prices will be through the roof and people are going crazy. Card stores where I live are getting broken into at a MINIMUM of once a week.

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Triple doing his best to hype things up

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never, I am sending out a warning

There was a rumor that pokemon intentionally gave pokrev poorly seeded packs. People always claim the opposite due to bias so why cant this be true? Maybe the hits will be crazy and this was poor luck and poor rng?

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I havent been able to preorder anything and I dont plan on going out to stores looking either. Everyone can get their asses kicked (literally and metaphorically) and then when pokemon company prints the living hell out of it down the road I’ll finally enjoy opening some. I really dont care anymore. Not feeling it this time around with all the goofy ass behavior I’ve been witnessing from people. Things are worse now than they ever were during the pandemic hype in my opinion. Surging Sparks, Prismatic and im guessing Journey Together and the Rocket set are all going to be impossible to find at release.

I was recently at walmart for a couple things I needed to cook something last week and noticed that the card stocker was there – he was hiding amongst the womens clothing as I walked to the back of the store to get my things and on his phone with presumably his boss. I went about my business and eventually noticed the people who were obviously stalking him/waiting for him to stock.

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We are fucked up

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In his first video of Prismatic evolution opening, he got an Ogerpon SAR. A french guy also got the gold pikachu. There are just too many SAR or Gold cards.

Relax. It’s just a modern set like any other one. There will be plenty of product to go around if you are patient.

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What warning are you giving out? To not go to the store so you don’t get beat up?

Everyone needs to just take a chill pill

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I have a single etb coming that I plan to open. After that, I may buy some master/pokeball reverses down the line (months). I also plan to buy the eevee fruit promo when it comes out eventually. Other than that, I am not super interested in opening this set. The eeveelutions arent my favorite, and I feel the evolving skies/swsh promo alts are better generally. There arent any species im collecting in the set to my knowledge, so theres really not a ton pulling me to this set. The allure of pulling a high value modern chase is always fun, but I am certainly not losing sleep over this set.

If I find it at retail I will likely buy something, but I am more excited for sets coming later this year, so I am gonna focus on those.

If the last 5 years has taught me anything, its to be patient and or buy singles. Dont get too caught up on reddit, youtube, and other sources of doom and gloom.

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I started typing this before reading the other replies and then read the replies so I’m glad it’s not a hot take! But I just can’t bring myself to care. New sets seem irrationally priced, I don’t really care to understand why, I have a million other cardboards to buy and enjoy, and I’m not really going to keep up with the joneses.

I guess I have low stakes collecting style, I’m not after Species collector, I can really empathise with those who do. But it just kind of feels like this stuff is out of all hands and the way things are now is really not for me. So I am very glad the things I want to collect get attention taken away from them by Hype-reon so they stay cheap.

:pikatongue:

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there are aspects qualitativly different from evolving skies outside of the set itself

  1. covid times people were having loans paused, rent paused, and being given free money. Many people were straight up scamming PPP loans from the US government. Usually for the amount of $20,000, and it wasn’t even hard. Massive amounts of fraud, and free money and debt and payment forgiveness.

  2. Right now people are poor. Jobs are scarce, %99 of the job growth recovery went to foreign imports. The inflationary impact from when evolving skies time has hit us now, so your money doesn’t even go as far. People are spending more of the % of their money on the basics. People are in massive debt.

  3. pokemon was dealing with having to suddenly learn how to ramp up their printing capacity in 2020. As well as that, supply chains were frustrated due to many restrictions and genuine uncertainty of many people if its wise to be at work at all. Again, many people were begging their bosses to fire them so that they could get more money from government hand outs than from actually working. The incentives were topsy turvey.

The real question to ask here, is what will Pokemon Company actually decide to do? They clearly to date have been doing a poor job at communicating across the company and matching and managing expectations and managing their card printing and distribution of cards in many ways. I won’t go into that here though. But they clearly are caught with their pants down right now.


As far as the set itself? I think much of it was a massive mistake. I hated masterballs in 151 and I hate them now. In Japanese it was a very low pull rate with a massive number of cards it can be a variant for. 1/20 in JP is way way way too rare. In english its even worse because now there are 3 types of reverse holo variant, which will dilute the pull rates of all 3 types. Also of note is that in English the pull rates went from ~2 SIR per booster box at the start of the era, down to ~1 to now about ~.5 !!! In terms of odds that is like ~1/65 or something based on the numbers we’ve seen since the last pull rate nerf in Temporal forces. So now you add that to the insane numbers of SIRs in this set, and it dillutes the pull rates of desirable cards even further. That is a massive mistake. In japanese the terastal festival SAR pull rate is locked in to be one per box at least. So that is 1/10 packs. And yet still the set is wildly popular and prices of the desirable cards is quite high due to the sheer number of SIR cards in the set. In that sense, the pull rate matches the sheer number of cards you can get.

I must admit, from the numbers, this was a mistake. I think the masterballs in this set of all sets was entirely a mistake. If they wanted to bring out that artificial scarcity gimmick, they should have done it on a weak set with a small set list…oh wait we had one it was called shrouded fable.

Will this be another evolving skies? Well, if surging spark is vivid voltage 2.0, then I have no reason to say this isn’t going to be like evo skies.

Due to the aforementioned “meta” circumstances pokemon company should be able to do something more. The question is do they want to? As of yet, they haven’t really done reprinting for the s/v era at all, instead they kept going back to reprint sword and shield era cards, especially crown zenith until they flooded us with packs. Now, those sets at the time were still in competitive rotation, but even as recently as this christmas they reprinted the trainer gallery sets for big retail.

I cannot divine what pokemon is doing with their print facility time and effort. Nor do I know if they communicate well to anticipate demand. We got meager reprints of 151 trickled out to us via big box stores for the holiday(which got botted as you’d expect), LGS were left in the trash bind entirely.

At this point I’m just brain dumping, so I’ll end it here.

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“relax” should be the word of the year, hahah

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Reddits response to this set was funny at first but it’s just gotten tiring. It’s been nonstop scalper this scalper that. If youre a scalper? Evil. Buying from a scalper? Also evil. This behavior honestly makes me more embarrassed to be a Pokémon collector than the van gogh museum fiasco.

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It might create the same effect on rarity of cards and scarcity of product, but I think the overall quality of the set is way lower.

Might be my personal taste but I am not sure how this terastral/crown pokemons with a chandelier on their heads are going to age.
I think it’s not easy to do good art with these, Even the umbreon which should be the main chase is nice card but not awesome,

To be fair I also think the moombreon is overrated and the Alt art V from evolving skies to be way better, the market always follow the hype over the art.

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the V alt arts are more common than vmax alt arts, but I think they are both cool. When you strip away price from the situation, I would agree that something about evil mob boss umbreon announcing his game plan to the goons has a certain vibe to it that I find quite interesting. Or at least thats how I see what is going on in the card’s art.

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