Overcharging for shipping?

[kickstand54]

@matt

This is probably the most pointless thread since legendaryblu.

Is it pointless to ask the opinion of experts before rushing to judgement and leaving feedback? Perhaps to some.

[maverick75]

It’s shipping AND handling, charging exact shipping is losing money.

You have to pay for sleeves, toploaders, mailers, driving to the post office to drop off the item costs more than anything.

Then eBay charge you a free on shipping, along with PayPal. In the end shipping is just a money pit.

If you got the card in good condition I would be happy.

I charge label price for shipping, even though the actual shipping cost is twice that and people still complain.

[matt]

@kickstand54

@matt

This is probably the most pointless thread since legendaryblu.

Is it pointless to ask the opinion of experts before rushing to judgement and leaving feedback? Perhaps to some.

I wasn’t taking a shot at you. I’m saying this thread has evolved into one big argument, that is pointless.

[kickstand54]

@maverick75

It’s shipping AND handling, charging exact shipping is losing money.

You have to pay for sleeves, toploaders, mailers, driving to the post office to drop off the item costs more than anything.

Then eBay charge you a free on shipping, along with PayPal. In the end shipping is just a money pit.

If you got the card in good condition I would be happy.

I charge label price for shipping, even though the actual shipping cost is twice that and people still complain.

So if you paid 1k for a card, would you be good with paying $500 shipping if it really only cost $50? At what point does it become excessive in your opinion?

[gottaketchumall]

@kickstand54

@maverick75

So if you paid 1k for a card, would you be good with paying $500 shipping if it really only cost $50? At what point does it become excessive in your opinion?

I would pay $10,000 to ship a booster box. If it was a 1st edition base set that I got for $2,000.

I wouldn’t pay $5 to ship a booster box. If it was a sun and moon for $100.

All in price is all that matters to the buyer. Anything else is just being petty/complain-y after the fact. Only exception being if you paid $XX for a certain shipping service I.E. expeditied or priority and then failed to get that actual service level.

[KingPokemon]

@kickstand54

@maverick75

I charge label price for shipping, even though the actual shipping cost is twice that and people still complain.

So if you paid 1k for a card, would you be good with paying $500 shipping if it really only cost $50? At what point does it become excessive in your opinion?

If I paid 1k and $500 shipping for a 1500.00 card I’d be
Only a dimwit would pay 1k and $500 shipping for a 1000.00 card.
I don’t care how the seller lists his items. I’m still going to pay only what I want.

Goes back to my point…only pay what you’d like. If you’re not diligent enough to add 1+1 then you don’t belong in the auction game.

[scratchdesk]

@ozenigma

It has been there, and continues to be there because it’s their policy Gary.

When you dig deeper you’ll find this;

I wasn’t going to reply anymore here but I dug deeper much like oz did and found the same guidelines found here:
screenshot as the page doesnt have a link: i.imgur.com/rybRfRd.png
and
pages.ebay.com/help/sell/reasonable-shipping.html

So I’ll fess up that I was incorrect in my statements about their policy in regards to the initial post. It seems they do state that Sellers are allowed to:
Charge actual shipping costs.
Include the cost of packaging materials, insurance, and delivery.
& Include delivery confirmation or extra services in the handling cost.

So, sorry for that. I still don’t believe the way they outline it is clear either.
Take for example this quote from the second link:

If you do charge extra for handling, make sure you show value by packaging these items with care.

This directly infers that the extra handling cost can be justified through care in packaging and perceived value.

My opinion is eBay hasn’t taken a solid stance on the issue because it hasn’t been a problem for them. If we have to dig this deep and fight over wording then it’s far from a clear cut policy. They could just state “sellers aren’t allowed to profit from handling fees”, but they don’t.

I don’t agree with charging excessive shipping and will not buy or bid on items with shipping costs that are out of line on most occasions.

That’ll be all I have to say on the topic. Peace love and rainbows.

[KingPokemon]

@gottaketchumall

@kickstand54

So if you paid 1k for a card, would you be good with paying $500 shipping if it really only cost $50? At what point does it become excessive in your opinion?

I would pay $10,000 to ship a booster box. If it was a 1st edition base set that I got for $2,000.

I wouldn’t pay $5 to ship a booster box. If it was a sun and moon for $100.

All in price is all that matters to the buyer. Anything else is just being petty/complain-y after the fact. Only exception being if you paid $XX for a certain shipping service I.E. expeditied or priority and then failed to get that actual service level.

Totally common sense and it’s odd not everyone can grasp the concept

[KingPokemon]

@scratchdesk

@ozenigma

It has been there, and continues to be there because it’s their policy Gary.

When you dig deeper you’ll find this;

I wasn’t going to reply anymore here but I dug deeper much like oz did and found the same guidelines found here:
screenshot as the page doesnt have a link: i.imgur.com/rybRfRd.png
and
pages.ebay.com/help/sell/reasonable-shipping.html

So I’ll fess up that I was incorrect in my statements about their policy in regards to the initial post. It seems they do state that Sellers are allowed to:
Charge actual shipping costs.
Include the cost of packaging materials, insurance, and delivery.
& Include delivery confirmation or extra services in the handling cost.

So, sorry for that. I still don’t believe the way they outline it is clear either.
Take for example this quote from the second link:

If you do charge extra for handling, make sure you show value by packaging these items with care.

This directly infers that the extra handling cost can be justified through care in packaging and perceived value.

My opinion is eBay hasn’t taken a solid stance on the issue because it hasn’t been a problem for them. If we have to dig this deep and fight over wording then it’s far from a clear cut policy. They could just state “sellers aren’t allowed to profit from handling fees”, but they don’t.

I don’t agree with charging excessive shipping and will not buy or bid on items with shipping costs that are out of line on most occasions.

That’ll be all I have to say on the topic. Peace love and rainbows.

Maybe it’s an experience thing. The older you get the less important a breakdown is. You tend to concentrate more on the bottom line. Maybe it’s because you have less time so less time to waste.

[oldskoolpokemon]

@gottaketchumall

@kickstand54

So if you paid 1k for a card, would you be good with paying $500 shipping if it really only cost $50? At what point does it become excessive in your opinion?

I would pay $10,000 to ship a booster box. If it was a 1st edition base set that I got for $2,000.

I wouldn’t pay $5 to ship a booster box. If it was a sun and moon for $100.

All in price is all that matters to the buyer. Anything else is just being petty/complain-y after the fact. Only exception being if you paid $XX for a certain shipping service I.E. expeditied or priority and then failed to get that actual service level.

This is SPOT ON!

Everyone should read this and just move-on to bigger and better topics

[omahanime]

What about the sellers that give no break on multiple items?

[TrainOfThought]

@omahanime

What about the sellers that give no break on multiple items?

i’d rather not buy from those, lol.
that’d make me feel slimed over.

[charchu]

@omahanime

What about the sellers that give no break on multiple items?

So far every seller that didn’t offer combined shipping refunded me partially after I messaged them

But I really try hard to avoid them lol

[kkthxbai]

There is lots of extra costs not just postage… Toploaders card savers bubble wrap padded parcels, and time / handling all adds up and should be factored in.

I also give free items to everybody in my parcels.

Just hope that you don’t get charged $100, and have a booster box wrapped in a babies nappy and sent to you overseas.
When the sellers start doing shit like that. Time to get nasty.
Happened to me once lol

[omahanime]

I understand “lots of extra costs not just postage.” but some sellers think because they can get with it, should do it.

I had a seller tell me their shipping is a fixed cost.
1 card - $3 shipping
2 card - $6 shipping
3 card - $9 shipping
And I will bet you there are some with this philosophy, that stick all 3 cards in one toploader.

[KingPokemon]

@omahanime

I understand “lots of extra costs not just postage.” but some sellers think because they can get with it, should do it.

I had a seller tell me their shipping is a fixed cost.
1 card - $3 shipping
2 card - $6 shipping
3 card - $9 shipping
And I will bet you there are some with this philosophy, that stick all 3 cards in one toploader.

If I’m selling 3 cards for 100.00 each with free shipping
And
You’re selling the same three cards for 97.00 each with that 9.00 shipping

Does that make you a bad guy? If so, why? Your buyer is paying the exact same amount as my buyer.

[omahanime]

@KingPokemon

@omahanime

I understand “lots of extra costs not just postage.” but some sellers think because they can get with it, should do it.

I had a seller tell me their shipping is a fixed cost.
1 card - $3 shipping
2 card - $6 shipping
3 card - $9 shipping
And I will bet you there are some with this philosophy, that stick all 3 cards in one toploader.

If I’m selling 3 cards for 100.00 each with free shipping
And
You’re selling the same three cards for 97.00 each with that 9.00 shipping

Does that make you a bad guy? If so, why? Your buyer is paying the exact same amount as my buyer.

Then say $100.00 with free shipping

That way I know what I am paying. If he has 10 cards I want at $7 + $3 shipping would I pay $70 +$30 shipping or $70 +$10 shipping but if he says $10.00 with free shipping, I know I would owe $100. UP FRONT PRICING!

And secondly the sellers that say $7 + $3 shipping seem to cut corners on the shipping, and there are times you can find someone selling the same card $7 + free shipping with better shipping.

What you have to remember not everyone is as good as a businessman as you Gary.

[KingPokemon]

Thanks lol.

You know I agree that we should make it as easy as possible on potential bidders. After all, I have nearly 100 listings with free worldwide shipping;)