The Mr. mime owner has theirs and, correctly, there are not Mr Mime “Corocoro illustration contest” labeled.
There are less than 10 available graded cards as “corocoro illustration contest”, and now they have gained the “title” of trophy cards (after >20 years there aren’t other new cards which have gained this title).
I say this because it’s 100% sure that 20 of each were rewarded to the winners: so these cards must exist and a label exist and PSA gave to those the “corocoro illustration contest” label.
After >20 years these low pop cards have become the trophy card of the “Corocoro illustration contest” (winner prize).
I have a conversation with PSA (P. Penegar), the question was: "Can you confirm that #24968760 is correctly graded and it’s a real Poliwrath Corocoro Illustration Contest (1997 Pokemon Japanese Promo)? "
His answer:"
Phillip Penegar (Collectors Universe)
dude its the same card. That’s like trying to differentiate the toyota arcanine promo from the cd promo. It’s the same exact card.
There could be a tournament where the winners were given a red cheeks shadowless pikachu as a reward, and that doesn’t suddenly make it NOT a set card if there is nothing to differentiate it. The point of the spreadsheet is to track truly rare, limited print cards. The spreadsheet doesn’t need to be bogged down with “good stories” or a set card that has 100k copies in english but only 1000 in thai or some of the other stuff i keep seeing that people want to argue about.
I’d like to point out he does not directly say they are the illustration trophies. He just mentioned no more in the future will be graded as such and I’m sure this phrasing is more to dodge any liability. If they had evidence they would have said your card is the illustration winner one.
That is not how authentication on these cards works. Plausible deniability isn’t authentication. There’s a ton of items that get authenticated by having research done to discover where the items came from, look at movie props. In this situation you have a standard by psa that they verify the cards are real and were released. The issue is the label does not properly authenticate their origin which is required for a true authentication of these cards.
Either way this discussion isn’t on topic, obviously if we’re talking about Pokémon cards with under 1k distribution and I can pull up more than 1k of a single card it’s not qualified. Is there a release of the card under 1k? Yes, but the card itself isn’t under 1k.
We have a different point of view, and I’m in the minority, so I give up
I’d like that these cards were mentioned but if the majority think it’s useless, so don’t do it, sorry
The cards in question will not be added to the list.
I think @cullers said it best - if the cards in question are indistinguishable from the mass produced cards, we’re really talking about different releases of the same card.
I am not going to create separate lines in the document for the 2001 Tropical Mega Battle Tropical Wind / Tropical Breeze and the “2002 World Championship Tropical Wind / Tropical Breeze.” It’s the same card, different releases.
English Base Set Charizard had 8 different print runs. People do not consider there to be 8 different English Base Set Charizards just because there were multiple print runs. The cards are only distinguished when they have physical features that distinguish them, such as the 1st edition, Shadowless, Unlimited, and “4th Print” versions of the card.
The Master List is not denying the existence of the 20 copies of the Poliwrath/Snorlax/Mr. Mine that were awarded to the the winners. It is simply saying that these cards are considered to be the same card (different release) of a card that had a much larger release, therefore the distribution of the cards is far more than 1,000, and therefore the cards will not be on the list.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the poliwrath is no more special that its counterparts, It on the same level as the misgraded German rayquaza, only being hyped up by their owner. A legitimate copy has never been graded and if one even has then there is no way to prove so, a PSA label means diddly squat.
I’ve now got hold of those magazines and feel like a single blog post isn’t going to be enough to cover everything. For now I’ve posted up what I had already written as part 1, with part 2 being something I’ll work on over the next few months (and maybe next year or two depending on how quickly I can source the remaining magazines).
As for the 2010 10 complete sets claim: I’ve since reverted that edit to Bulbapedia as there is no solid proof that that’s true. The official information about that also says that each winner was to receive 100 of their design and mentions nothing about receiving other designs. It makes me wonder if the cards that have surfaced were duplicates rather than cards that made it through to the actual winners.
On Instagram I’ve shared what the contest insert from the April 2009 Kindergarten magazine looks like as well (see picture 3):
I definitely agree with this first part above, but I honestly can’t agree with:
English and Thai can be differentiated from one another. If a certain card in English was part of a set, but the same artwork in Thai was a promo limited to 1000 copies, this Thai card belongs in the list with a note stating it was released in set X in English. It’s similar with the Zekrom GX and Extra Battle Day promos in Japanese, which were limited to a couple hundred, yet were part of the Thai/Indonesian/Chinese sets.
If not, you can also remove all cards with stamps; the Billingual Exeggutor which was reprinted as Glossy promo as well as in the XY Evolutions set; the University Magikarp which was reprinted in the Pokemon Web set; the FPO and Matchprint cards; etc. etc. Basically all cards that mention “Many” in the Shared Art Distribution column…
I’m all about removing all cards with stamps if it’s just a stamped foil differentiating the card. But this is why they exist on a different part of the spreadsheet. Agreed with FPOS but at least the "FPO printed directly on the card sets them a part from a stamp. Either way, I believe those exist on a different area of the spreadsheet as well.
This is really an incredible job done by all involved, very sweet spreadsheet.
I was wondering if it’s potentially missing the 2018 Player’s Ceremony, it was given to players who got 120 Championship points in 2017/18 season which according to this vid was slightly under 400 people. I had a little look around though and couldn’t find anything about how many copies each player was given or much more about its distribution in general. I’d be interested to find out if anyone knows anything more about it. There’s the 2019 version as well, but that required only 60 points, so not sure where that would leave it.
Hey guys! If this Master list is still being updated, I’m thinking all the “Ultra” and “Ultimate” jumbos in this thread would qualify in the Unofficial Cards section, as they were excessively large prints of official TCG cards printed by TPCi to show off at their events and I don’t see anyway those would have more than 1K copies.
Another possible set of cards to add are the Pokepark file cards which are rumored to have only 1000 copies each. This set is pretty under the radar. Maybe someome has more information about this set
I’ve always wondered about this set. I know Bulbapedia says it’s rumored that there were only 1000 copies of each Premium File, but the amount I see online for sale makes it seem like there were more than 1000 sold. I love the set, and have two of each, so it’d be nice if they were that rare.
It’s not on the sheet, but I’m wondering if the regional Pal City cards had <1000 copies distributed? I’ve been looking around and can’t find distribution numbers anywhere. But according to Bulbapedia, some of them were only given out over a period of two days at specific tournaments?
Hi Quuador,
sorry to bring this up after months, but I’ve only seen this post a few minutes ago. Are you sure the Italian deck wasn’t printed in 2001 at TMB? I haven’t found this information anywhere, though it could be possible since there isn’t any information about the 2002 tournament either.
