soo getting this card authenticated but really would like to get an idea if im getting my hopes up or not
what do you all think iv looked at alot of signatures and it looks pretty good
thing thats interesting is English name, Japanese name no Pikachu
where most examples is jp, english
100% a fake.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Absolutely fake.
You can check it against any of these autographs and immediately see the mistakes.
That’s a genuine ben sugimoto! 
Welcome to e4! If you use the search function on the website, you will see a lot of threads on autos, in addition to what @Dyl posted specifically for Ken Sugimori. Best of luck on your hunt!
you guys sure iv been comparing signatures for an hour and i dont think its that off looks fluid start and stops look good
what am i missing
please elaborate it looks really close in my eyes what is throwing you off??
What aspects of the signature lead you to believe it’s authentic?
It is not legitimate. If you want a couple of obvious indicators:
humm pretty good points i see alot of hihs signatures upward angle
and his kanji is always first
the spacing i dont think is a huge deal
idk i still have a sliver of hope just going off how everything starts and stops his K and M,G,S are pretty consistent
same with alot of his kanji
this one here pretty straight
regardless i greatly appreciate your replys! it just looks pretty decent to me but i guesss i have the hopes and dream eyes ha iv had this card for about 9 years and i bought it from a pokemon vendor at a convention said his firend got it signed at a event think i paid like 80 bucks for it
didnt relise untill today that ken is one of the hardest autographs to have
The right most character also looks like it’s missing a good amount of strokes.
Ken Sugimori is considered to be the top of the food chain when it comes to autographs. The market for his autograph is pretty expensive since most are from a long time ago and he does not publicly sign anymore.
I don’t want to stir the pot and certainly do not want to diminish the experience when you bought the auto and the memories you may hold buying it, but it’s definitely not real.
Unfortunately in this market, there are those that will try and take advantage of those that aren’t necessarily experienced in autos to try and make a quick buck.
@swolepoke is considered to be the auto guru in the hobby and is very experienced specifically on Ken Sugimori fakes.
Lastly, there are autos out there that members of e4 have run into that say are authenticated, but they’re not real. Doesn’t happen everyday, but they do pop up. The search function on autos will be your best friend, in addition to just soaking up all the free information e4 has to offer.
@swolepoke why is it fake ha help me learn
i do see there are a few red flags with just how its set up but i feel like the actual writing of the signature has some real good signs
That kanji is written like somebody who is learning to write kanji for the first time.
If you are receiving feedback from numerous sources, both more experienced and knowledgeable than yourself, and you still won’t accept that it is unequivocally a fake signature then you should send it for authentication and waste your money.
@pfm was the only one who gave any reasons why they thought it was fake.
im just looking for what stood out to be fake
i cant learn anything from “its fake” trust me im a guy on the internet
will i come to you the next time?
with respect what makes it fake?
appreciate your advice and time you spent replying to this
This one is also fake. Green label CGC was a work around to get fakes in slabs since CGC doesnt authenticate unwitnessed autographs.
