How do i delete this thred?


the kanji really dont look off 2 me the circled things arnt really far fetched

if those don’t “look off” to you, I’m not really sure what anyone else can say

These folks are trying to help you. Trust me. Most of the folks who are replying have been in the hobby for 10+ years. It’s really hard to take bad news especially if it comes at a loss in every aspect but that won’t change the reality. No one here saying it’s fake has anything to gain from telling you this outside of hoping to save you some more funds.

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ahaha please teach me im not one for believing without reason

Where did you get the card?

what is the history of the card?

I am not a kanji master, but I have been learning and writing Japanese for 4 years.

The kanji is written very unnaturally, like somebody who hasn’t written it literally thousands of times. Like they had to stop in the middle of writing the characters to make sure they were doing the strokes correctly. There is nothing smooth about how they have been written. The person that faked the autograph doesn’t have confidence in their ability to write the kanji.

I suspect the stroke order has not even been followed correctly for the kanji’s either, kanji characters have a logical flow to their stroke order that only makes sense once you have learnt many of them and feel natural writing them. Some of the correct strokes are even missing.

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100% im not upset or sayin they dont know there stuff
i just hopes to gain some knowledge

not just YOUR WRONG ITS FAKE TRUST ME

What about the 4 reasons already provided?

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a like anime convention like 9 years ago
buddy just said his friend got it signed at another convention ha
cant trust much but it forsure has some age

/thread

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I agree. I’ve learned Japanese in high school for a bit and I know what my writing looks like when I’m trying to recreate a character. It felt like lines were missing or not right order as you were saying. It seemed like someone def practiced and said alright good enough lol.

Also the swoop @virux199 onbthe last character is different than how sugimori signs which is very consistent. The square versus the curved is easy difference to spot

Edit: want to still see. Send it in to PSA and just wait what they say.

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If you do not agree with some of the top veterans of this hobby, than please send it off to get graded with PSA. Then you will be satisfied with your answer. (Or you will just believe PSA is wrong)

We are just trying to save you time and money by letting you know it is 100% fake by the numerous examples we have shown you just in just this thread not even counting the number of threads about this topic.

You’ve already gotten the answer but unfortunately it’s fake. It’s tough to spot for someone who hasn’t read a lot of Kanji/Japanese but that is not written by Sugimori nor is it written by a native Japanese person.

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If you’re looking for ways in which the fake signature is similar to the real one, you’re of course going to find them, because someone copied the fake signature from a real one. It’s not enough that things “look okay” for the signature to be real, everything needs to check out.

In addition to the previously mentioned reasons why it is fake (Japanese placed wrong, wrong angle, spacing off, kanji written unnaturally), here are some additional ones:

  • The size of the letters is off. Note how in the real examples, the S and R in Sugimori are larger than the other letters.
  • Similarly, note the O before the R in Sugimori is much larger in your example than the real ones provided.
  • Look at the K in Ken. In yours, it’s like a | combined with a <, where the way he normally signs is more like a | combined with a C.
  • There is no Pikachu sketch, or sketch of any kind, on the auto. Sugimori almost always does a sketch, and when there isn’t a sketch, it’s more likely to be one of his earlier autographs. But if you look at these, the differences are even more obvious. It’s clear someone wanted to fake a Sugimori, but wasn’t confident enough in their sketch abilities to make the sketch believable. On better Sugimori fakes, the sketch is often the giveaway as to whether it’s fake or not.
  • Real Sugimori signatures are incredibly rare and usually only obtained by people who were in attendance at Pokemon Worlds or other tournaments in the early-mid 2000s. These people know their stories and it’s effectively impossible to be a real Sugimori if it doesn’t have a backstory that places the card or someone it was purchased from at one of these tournaments. Provenance is the biggest factor for autos, and yours doesn’t have it unfortunately.
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thankyou for that reply its by the far the most helpful

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@milhouse and @fourthstartcg nailed it on the head. Not much more to add to all this! :raised_hands:

Sorry I couldn’t respond @virux199, gave a quick opinion before I had some guest over and didn’t have the oppertunity to write out a lengthy response for all the things wrong with the autograph.

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