That’s unfortunate that mewtuw likely made several calls describing the size of the box and contents and importance, just for FedEx to allegedly sell the box to a third party.
I’d be sick to my stomach if this happened to my Pokémon nest egg and I wouldn’t blame mewtuw if this has put him off from collecting. The silver lining as I see it is that I think he has an eye for collecting the right stuff, judging by what he lost. If he ever starts back up I’m sure he’d fair better than many in no time.
I appreciate the support but I’d say Dan doesn’t appear shady. He could’ve easily stuck his head in the sand & ignored all my messages. We spoke on the phone within an hour of messaging him. He legally purchased the cards but do wish he’d consider giving a few back. I haven’t overtly asked that he consider doing so, though.
The thing that burns me up is FedEx does open the packages when inside their “lost & found” area. I was told this is done so once you submit a description of the contents - it can be matched when employees inspect the opened box. Not only that, a PWCC Vault packing slip was inside the package w/ all my contact info. But… That’s hard to prove. The package was being “traced” weeks prior to submitting the claim itself. Just wish I knew what happened.
In your analogy of a high-value card getting sent to the wrong address, the person who came into possession of the card would have gotten the card for free.
In Dan’s situation, he PURCHASED $80k worth of cards. He didn’t just have them sent to him at no cost.
Once again I never said he should return the entire collection. He can very well send back just some cards & still make profit probably so I stand by the analogy.
Agreed. I don’t know if this was mentioned earlier in the thread but I would imagine there would be some sort of tracing that’s possible from purchase to purchase to shipment to find out who made the call to sell.
If I had bought something for 80k to profit off of, I would definitely feel bad to sell the cards, but don’t think I could just eat the loss like that. FedEx and the system that made the call to sell them in the first place are those to blame, not the end purchaser.
I hope some retribution is available if others decide to investigate further.
Dan should give more info on this “George” guy. Obviously some sort of message exchange happened between the two – be it through email, Facebook, eBay messages, etc. And unless the deal involved literally just physically handing over $80k in cash, Dan will have info about George from whatever platform the payment was made through. Some attempt should be made by Dan to look further into George and where he got the cards from.
I’ve been trashing fedex for years. You guys haven’t seen anything; we hear about lost package stories all the time from them, but this is far more common with fedex than you think. I work in an industry that relies on shipping overnight packages (massive pelican cases of gear), and they are “lost” ALL THE TIME. On that note, the way they affix labels to packages is laughable and from my view done purposefully to maximize profit–either that or they are too stupid. Either case is unforgivable.
They are a business and suffer no backlash for all their negligence. Hopefully this serves as a cautionary tale to everyone reading this thread to just avoid the company altogether, who–guess what–doesn’t offer sufficient insurance for anything of meaningful value. The fact that they can do this is the most reprehensible thing I might have ever heard of a business doing on a personal, specific level to a customer.
With USPS (and I’m sure same goes for other national post services ), you can fully insure valuable packages, and such services (like registered mail) are the among the most reliable in the world. USPS is not a business. They aren’t even regularly supported with tax dollars. It’s the greatest public service that exists, along with public protectors.
This story is serious and I would love to see it publicized and made a national story ffs. Mewtuw deserves his property, morally. In that event the guy who bought the cards would be fully reimbursed. Obviously he doesn’t deserve any loss either, he’s just another link in this chain created by fedex. The law of a company who doesn’t clearly tell you these rules when you send something is bullshit and bottom of gutter scummery.
Im generally not someone who suggests this but has @mewtuw given any consideration to a gofundme or similar to maybe just get a couple cards back. Something just for the sentiments, especially if a deal can be worked out with dan for some positive press (doubtful that its needed but more eyes on a shop is always good). It sounds like fedex is the big baddie in the story, which isnt surprising, but no reason to not have a scenario where everyone else at least has a small win. Plus if its successful there is more likelihood that somewhere with a slow newsday would like a fluff article with a decent ending (and some outrage clickbait).
Dan has no incentive to out “george” if he outs George it leads to him potentially being found in possession of stolen goods. Just the fact there was a PWCC slip with this poor guy’s contact info points to foul play.
You are making big assumptions. You have no idea about the amount of profit he is able to make from the purchase, especially considering all the costs associated with running a business. The market is down right now, there’s every chance the price he paid at time of purchase was higher than the current market rate for those same cards today.
I often see people like you online. The sort of person that criticizes celebrities for ‘only’ donating $50000 to a charity, while never donating a cent of their own money. I’d like to see you send the OP a few thousand dollars worth of cards. Drop a screenshot in this thread once you’ve done that, cheers.
So after digging around packages can be legally sold on auction sites like Govdeals, Direct Liquidation by UPS and USPS and Amazon. However Fedex did at some point sell packages on auctions like Bukoos (closed in 2019 ) and Bulward Auctions (closed between 2014/2015). From the available information online, it seems as though FedEx no longer holds auctions or let members of the public bid on lost packages.
I just feel like a lot of people are thinking backwards. The best lead in this case is finding out Dan has the cards. The second best lead is finding out George had the cards.
Shift the focus away from Fedex and shift the focus towards George. How did George get the cards? That’s the most important question to answer right now.
I haven’t considered a gofundme. If people are willing, I’d think about doing so. Ultimately, still consider this my blunder. Clearly I’m frustrated w/ FedEx but I should’ve just waited for the PWCC insured label. They were dragging their feet & I was about to leave for vacation. For whatever reason I became paranoid about a break in & sent it off overnight uninsured. Dumb.
If legally this isn’t going anywhere I’d reach out and ask is there anything he can do as goodwill in this horrible situation? Not in a begging way but as a kind of honorable thing to do that makes it slightly more palatable and then can draw a conclusion to the bad circumstance and both move forward.
There will be a bit of guesswork here, and I can’t quite remember now, but has it been confirmed that Fedex has sold these at auction, or are we just assuming, because they do it with lost packages?
As was said, Fedex has a lost and found department that opens and checks packages, so I would actually think that if this package had been found again by Fedex, then it would have reached its rightful owner. I am left with the feeling that this package was never found by Fedex and that they have not sold it.
Fedex is done with the case, because they have paid compensation, it is not the same as admitting that they have found the package and “owned” it afterwards and then sold it. It is probably more that they are “finished” with the case, as they have made up for it.
I had a package that went missing with Fedex, got a replacement for the package, and then it turned up after 5 months. I was then given the option to repay the insurance and keep the package.
I am still more interested in where George got the package from, as I do not feel that Fedex has sold this, as they had information about the owner in the package.
“People like you” buddy, you don’t know a damn about me, I’m not a twitter socialist. My response was purely emotional based on the fact that I’m a similar age to op & have a collection of similar value. If I lost it in a similar fashion and had to sit back & watch it get sold piece by piece for profit can’t say I’d be mentally ok. But you know what? it’s not my situation & I genuinely feel bad that the thread was derailed into a morality discussion.
I should’ve kept my judgement to myself out of respect for op. It was sanctimonious & unwarranted as Dan has done nothing but offer assistance. I apologize to OP & Dan if he happens to be here. I won’t be making anymore statements of that kind & hope someday op can get some form of closure.