Yesterday I got the update regarding the grade:
GRADE: MG as grade means “Unfortunately it means it did not reach the minimum grade you wanted “
It didn’t cross to PSA9 wich seems weird since card was mintier than most of my PSA9s.
Time to figure out what to do =O
Too bad it did not get crossed!
I guess I would take up @garyis2000, with that offer he made so you still get your PSA 9 
!
I did contact him but he withdrawn the offer. =[
Did PSA send your card back already?
They should be giving me Tracking today.
Interesting, I am of the opinion that PSA lodges the serial numbers of attempted and failed crossovers and you can be sure with almost certainty that a BGS zard has taken at least one trip to PSA in it’s life.
Rip
RIP to crossovers!
I wonder how close it came to PSA 9, what let it down?
Probably being in the BGS case let it down; =\
Dang, that’s really unfortunate…
I don’t think that’s a fair statement. With BGS offering subgrades, on the highest end cards where the subgrades make a world of difference (see Alpha Black Lotus) I could see a clean 1st edition Charizard making it’s first stop at BGS hoping for a Pristine 10.
For the highest end that might be true but for the vast majority of Pokémon (!) cards being graded that´s certainly not the case as PSA is just the market leader and by far the more popular company.
Well it has only happened twice is the BGS 10 pop? I’m not certain but I believe both were previous 10s that were sent to try their luck at BGS. BGS 9.5 zards are usually just PSA 9s in fancier clothing this thread is evidence of that but fair play to Argentina most people won’t advertise the BGS to PSA attemps. If a BGS 9.5 Zard (is for sale) there is almost no chance it has not had an excursion to PSA in its life it is almost as certain as the mathematical constants of the universe.
This result is disheartening. How in the world can a BGS 9.5 9.5 9 9 be a PSA 8? BGS used to be very reliable and consistently tough but now it’s a joke. This is kinda like what PSA went through from mid 2003 to early 2004 appx.
When dealing with BGS cards you better pay attention to cert numbers.
To be correct…
I didn’t withdraw the offer cause there was no offer. I said I would have traded before you sent it to PSA and it got deemed an 8. The interesting thing is I would have left it in the BGS case and we never would have known lol.
It’s still the same card.
Honestly it’s preposterous that either company does any sort of in case review or crossovers because the plastic does not afford a proper view of the card for grading. That isn’t even an opinion, it’s just a fact that you can’t see everything nearly as well, if at all, when a card in encapsulated. Especially in a BGS case where it is through plastic and a sleeve.
Agreed. I believe surface is especially well hidden when viewed through a case.
I have had this very similar problem as I have noted before, and I couldn’t agree more with you. My attempt to grade an UNL Zard from a BGS 9 to a PSA 10 (with subgrades 10, 9.5, 9.5, 8.5) fell flat on its Zard face. I can’t help but think, though, that sending a card, already in a BGS case, had something to do with it. If I were a grader, but let it be noted I am definitely not, I would feel a little slighted having to re-evaluate my biggest competitor’s work, feeling the need to ‘match’ their evaluation, almost like a stamp of approval. And even if I did give it this stamp, I would feel like I would be undermining my own work/company by ‘ok’ing’ or ‘matching’ my competitor’s evaluation (by evaluation, I mean grade). In other words, I concur that it’s an ego battle. And you can’t blame either company.
The biggest reason why it didn’t get a 10 is because its a 9. Like subgrades themselves, all the other reasons are secondary.
Actually, he wanted a min grade 9 so … it must be an 8;)