And some do it just for the high the comes with engaging in arguments 
Glad I sat this one out too lol
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says he’s glad he doesn’t offer opinions
says everyone here is nitpicky
Haha, did you really expect us to let this comment slide? 
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Right. Paying double+ money for cards I will always keep hurts and doesn’t benefit ME at all. Now if they decrease in value I will benefit because I’ll have more money in my pocket which I WILL spend. Shouldn’t be that hard for you to understand. You can’t spend inherent value and that’s the only value my collection will ever have FOR ME.
Now will somebody else benefit if the prices are still up on my collection when I pass? I guess so but chances are I won’t benefit along with them since I’ll be dead lol.
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I really enjoy arguing with people and I wish argumentation was a more foundational skill in education. I personally believe philosophy and particularly symbolic logic should be taught in elementary school.
By not teaching logic (other than arithmetic) or methods/analysis of argumentation, many people have a difficult time both accepting new ideas and being able to recognize their own mistakes and false claims. Here’s why I think that is:
If you are unable understand someone else’s argument or the flow of their premises to their conclusion and if you aren’t able to put forth a sensible argument of your own (holes in you logic, ignoring premises, ad hominem attacks, etc.) then you are not going to be able to understand new ideas that conflict with your own. Anytime someone suggests that you are wrong and tries to show you why with an argument, if you aren’t able to truly comprehend what they are arguing then you are going to back into a corner, cross you arms and say “you’re wrong, I’m right, just because”.
Let’s take the political climate from 2016, it was just a whole slew of “I’m right, you’re wrong, fuck the facts, my emotions are right.”
That dynamic, I think, is directly attributable to the general population not having any practice in logic or philosophy that develops one’s ability to analyze an argument and address it logically.
There’s no better way to communicate than doing so logically! That goes without saying, but it still ought to be said.
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“I really enjoy arguing with people…” You must be just a joy to be around .
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You can’t have an argument without either two solid opposing points of view or a very unreasonable participant. I’m not quite sure which one charmaaander is;) His point isn’t weak but very much inside the box or typical.
I’m not trying to be a jerk, but honestly, they’re weak arguments. He started out okay by telling us how typical markets work and trying to make a correlation. However, there was never a counterpoint to anything that set out to disprove that thought. Now, it’s just a debate of how we shouldn’t believe what someone says because they’re biased, which is fine if it was relevant and you have counterpoint to the actual points being made. That’s not what’s happening though, it’s just don’t listen to this person because they benefit from their point of view with no substance that attacks the actual claims.
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I can almost swear that’s called something…
Oh right, Devil’s Advocate.
That was a bit of a cheap shot. I didn’t say I like picking fights with people out of the blue. I’ll call out fallacies when I see them, but I meant “arguing” to mean I enjoy the art of argumentation.
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Arguing is not = being a devil’s advocate.
Devil’s advocate is when you take an opposing point of view in an argument even if you don’t believe it. I said that you were doing that earlier sub-consciously, as in you didn’t realize you were doing it, which I concluded because you kept saying one thing, then saying the opposite thing in the next post and you weren’t really making sense exactly what your position was.
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I apologize if your feelings were hurt by my comment.
Ok bud. Because my whole argument wasn’t that Pokémon Go still has a lot to do with current prices.
no hurt feelings, but I personally would never make any assumptions about you or anyone else here. That would be an unfair thing to do.
You’re a better man than I.
I’m not a better man. We all have our weaknesses and strengths.
I just prefer to give others the benefit of the doubt.
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This is like a mini debate of the effect that Pokemon GO had on the prices for cards.
Yes, PoGo contributed to the market growth, but there are other factors you can’t disregard. More importantly, market prices have seen a negative correlation in comparison to the popularity of PoGo. And considering I don’t expect PoGo to ever regain its maximum popularity, or for WOTC 1st edition to ever fall below pre-PoGo prices, it is fair to say that the CURRENT market for cards is independent of PoGo. The importance of understanding this is that: PoGo already had its affect on the market, it brought in many long-term collectors, the market does not rely on PoGo, and will not follow the trends of PoGo (fad) moving forward.
For Gary and charmaaander:
When something you own increases in price, this is beneficial for you, by itself. When something you want to buy increases in price, again, by itself, reduces your buying power; this is particularly bad when you are looking to purchase necessities.
As a collector, Gary focuses on his buying power decreasing, because he intends to keep the cards, regardless of the price.
charmaaander probably sees though another lens, considering pokemon cards are a nonessential niche good; the potential to sell the cards for a higher price is beneficial.
I think it is worth noting, Gary probably wouldn’t keep buying (collecting) if cards were absolutely worthless, and that he might sell some duplicates if a PSA 10 1st Edition Charizard could sell for $1 billion. While both of those are extremes that we won’t reach, value has relevance to collecting.
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Thats not the debate…
The debate was whether or not Gary has benefited from his collection going up in value even if he does not intend to sell.
I think yes because the value has gone up. He thinks no because he will never sell.
Dont see how saying an asset going up in value equals a benefit to the owner is a weak argument?
Its called an unrealized gain. Its a pretty basic concept… link
I get that you dont plan on selling. Your cards are still worth more money regardless.
Y’all are crazy!!
I think its fair to say that you have been … triggered !!!
@charmaaander Your original post:
Just because you divulged away from the main reason you made the point doesn’t change your intention of the post. You were trying to discredit other’s opinions by making an ad hominem argument.
If that’s not your intent, you’re saying you went to a topic titled: An Opinion on SMPRATTE’s Pokemon Go YouTube Video, and decided to try and convince people that Gary benefits from the market growth. You see how the context doesn’t make sense?
Also, if everyone but you is crazy… it’s most likely you…