You can own a 1st edition psa 8 charizard for $120 - legit?

[cullers]

@Fireftw_TCG

@KingPokemon

Please don’t advertise their garbage here. 99% of the people here are much too smart to fall for these scams.
Anybody who hosts these grab bags, especially the thieves at dacards, are pure scammers and the people who patronize them are total idiots.
Besides all that…go for it lol.

Sorry Gary, I was interested to know people’s opinion on this, was not really aware that dacardworld is not considered a trustworthy site until reading some of these posts.

Hopefully this thread is beneficial for others to read as well! I’ll just change the title slightly on the thread to include a question mark over legit lol.

I wouldn’t go as far as saying they’re not trustworthy, but I don’t trust any grabbag in general. They’ve had issues as well in the past, but who hasn’t.

I wouldn’t enter in their raffle or buy their yugioh products, but I wouldn’t call them untrustworthy either.

[cardcolle]

@cullers

@Kuja

Nah, if they are graded, they are graded. Not a scam. /s

Do you want to try and reread what I posted, and understand the context?

DA sold fake product, the product wasn’t PSA graded when they sold them. That’s a fact, I’m not calling this a scam. I’m saying to the person asking if they’re a totally clean company with no issues, the answer is no. I don’t know if they refunded the individuals or tried to remedy the situation, I’m just asnwering the question posted.

The scam part is clearly in reference to the situation we’re talking about, the raffle. Has nothing to do with selling fake product. Although, if you think selling product you know is fake, even if it’s been falsely authenticated isn’t a scam. Please enlighten me to that justification.

Am I allowed to sell a fake stamp card knowing it’s fake just because it’s in a PSA case?

Seriously, this stuff isn’t hard to figure out. Think if I was on the recieving end of the worst case scenerio would I be mad, if the answer is truthfully yes, then it’s not a good thing to do.
-If I paid for a ticket for a raffel from DA and got nothing but junk cards, would I be mad? Yes. Don’t do it.
-If I paid for a card and found out it was fake, would I be mad? Yes. Don’t do it.
See how easy this works people with questionable morals?

/s means sarcasm…

[cullers]

@cardcolle

@cullers

Do you want to try and reread what I posted, and understand the context?

DA sold fake product, the product wasn’t PSA graded when they sold them. That’s a fact, I’m not calling this a scam. I’m saying to the person asking if they’re a totally clean company with no issues, the answer is no. I don’t know if they refunded the individuals or tried to remedy the situation, I’m just asnwering the question posted.

The scam part is clearly in reference to the situation we’re talking about, the raffle. Has nothing to do with selling fake product. Although, if you think selling product you know is fake, even if it’s been falsely authenticated isn’t a scam. Please enlighten me to that justification.

Am I allowed to sell a fake stamp card knowing it’s fake just because it’s in a PSA case?

Seriously, this stuff isn’t hard to figure out. Think if I was on the recieving end of the worst case scenerio would I be mad, if the answer is truthfully yes, then it’s not a good thing to do.
-If I paid for a ticket for a raffel from DA and got nothing but junk cards, would I be mad? Yes. Don’t do it.
-If I paid for a card and found out it was fake, would I be mad? Yes. Don’t do it.
See how easy this works people with questionable morals?

/s means sarcasm…

Well that’s embarrasing for me, haha.

[froggy25]

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT buy raffles / lottery / random bs like this.

If you want an item, buy the item.

If you want to play lottery for the thrill, buy a lottery ticket.

1. You have no control of whether it is truly random
2. scams
3. the seller has crap to sell and want to sell it for much more than its actual value by including it into raffles.

Not to say, they infringe numerous laws on raffles and lottery, depending on where you live / where the seller lives.

By buying these atrocious “deals”, you’re giving incentives to a lot of sellers to continue these shady, terribad practices.

[nuttun]

@cullers

@blasturtle

I must have missed some other posts about them. Outside of this random grab bag product, are they not to be trusted? Just curious

I would t buy any Yugioh product from them. The fake LOB cards that PSA graded came from them. I’ve also know a hearsay story about them, it’s hearsay so I wont post it. Seeing this though, there’s no justifying this. It’s a scam, and if you fall for it I’ve got some sea side property in Nebraska to sell you.

I shit you not, just bought some yugioh cards from them. Order wasn’t “cancelled” but they informed me that my cards are “to be UD unlicensed reproduction that was made in the same factory cards but are not legal in tournament use. Please let us know how you would like to proceed with the order.”

Obviously I cancelled; I don’t want to deal with this garbage.

Edit: Also 1 of them was in a PSA graded case!

[smpratte]

@nuttun

@cullers

I would t buy any Yugioh product from them. The fake LOB cards that PSA graded came from them. I’ve also know a hearsay story about them, it’s hearsay so I wont post it. Seeing this though, there’s no justifying this. It’s a scam, and if you fall for it I’ve got some sea side property in Nebraska to sell you.

I shit you not, just bought some yugioh cards from them. Order wasn’t “cancelled” but they informed me that my cards are “to be UD unlicensed reproduction that was made in the same factory cards but are not legal in tournament use. Please let us know how you would like to proceed with the order.”

Obviously I cancelled; I don’t want to deal with this garbage.

Edit: Also 1 of them was in a PSA graded case!

Could you post a screen grab of this message?

[nuttun]

@smpratte

@nuttun

I shit you not, just bought some yugioh cards from them. Order wasn’t “cancelled” but they informed me that my cards are “to be UD unlicensed reproduction that was made in the same factory cards but are not legal in tournament use. Please let us know how you would like to proceed with the order.”

Obviously I cancelled; I don’t want to deal with this garbage.

Edit: Also 1 of them was in a PSA graded case!

Could you post a screen grab of this message?

I blanked out things that would tie directly to my order because I did not get my refund yet, but here’s the screen grab:

Directly link if picture is potato: imgur.com/if25ySy

[nuttun]

@smpratte

If you want the full correspondence Scott, I can forward you the entire email privately.

[smpratte]

Thanks for that! I wanted to understand the exact situation. Basically they are selling cards printed by someone in the factory without yugiohs permission?

[nuttun]

@smpratte

Thanks for that! I wanted to understand the exact situation. Basically they are selling cards printed by someone in the factory without yugiohs permission?

No problem! I don’t think so…here is my guess:

1. They bought some singles off of people who they then noticed it was fake, so they notified me, and said the fakes are almost identical to the real ones.

2. In yugioh’s time period, there was a time before the hand off between Konami and Upper Deck where Upper Deck sold reproduction of cards illegally, which is one of the reasons why Konami took the company back. Perhaps that’s what they are mentioning? That means they they are still counterfeit cards though. Source: yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Konami_v._Upper_Deck

A red flag for me is that one of the “reproductions” got PSA graded…that’s a serious problem.

What basically happened in my case is I simply bought singles off their website (no mention that they are reproductions). A day or two later, I received the aforementioned email, saying they are reproductions.

Edit: Added more context

Edit #2: Added direct source: www.yugioh-card.com/en/news/2010/news_100203-settlement.html

[pumpkins]

@nuttun

@smpratte

Thanks for that! I wanted to understand the exact situation. Basically they are selling cards printed by someone in the factory without yugiohs permission?

No problem! I don’t think so…here is my guess:

1. They bought some singles off of people who they then noticed it was fake, so they notified me, and said the fakes are almost identical to the real ones.

2. In yugioh’s time period, there was a time before the hand off between Konami and Upper Deck where Upper Deck sold reproduction of cards illegally, which is one of the reasons why Konami took the company back. Perhaps that’s what they are mentioning? That means they they are still counterfeit cards though. Source: yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Konami_v._Upper_Deck

A red flag for me is that one of the “reproductions” got PSA graded…that’s a serious problem.

What basically happened in my case is I simply bought singles off their website (no mention that they are reproductions). A day or two later, I received the aforementioned email, saying they are reproductions.

Edit: Added more context

Edit #2: Added direct source: www.yugioh-card.com/en/news/2010/news_100203-settlement.html

#2 would be my guess, it’s a bit hazy but I do remember this happening yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Konami_v._Upper_Deck and it’s rumblings within the community. That is why although they are technically unlicensed product, they can be authenticated. Which sounds like a bit of an oxymoron doesn’t it?