I’m not sure why it would shock anyone that a shadowless 1st edition gem mint 10 Holo would gain $1k especially the machamp as I have spoke to many people and it seems to be one of the hardest cards to grade
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I don’t get this either. Most of the holos in 10 are close to 1K, why would a very similar card at $600(at auction) be some sort of surprise? $1,100 seems unreasonable, but like I said before, I think they are undervalued and the price will keep climbing.
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I think many collectors have an incorrect connotation of Machamp being more available because it was released in a deck. This coupled with the fact that the Pop does not distinguish between shadowless and non-shadowless machamps.
The card is not an easy grade, and at this point not an easy find. Also, machamp is needed for both 1st ed collectors and shadowless collectors.
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There’s a difference between being able to imagine a card going for $1.000 and a card actually going for $1.000.
If this card were going for $1,000, no one would think otherwise. But it is not and it has not. So when someone says they’ve sold ten separate copies at double the apparent going rate, you have to be skeptical. Honestly, I’m skeptical of anyone who isn’t skeptical. Haha
Personally, I also have a pretty strong opinion on pricing. I think anyone that claims a price without having any reference to actual figures is just blowing smoke. My least favorite thing is when people talk up or talk down the value on cards because of how they feel about them. “It’s hard to grade.” “It’s just cardboard.” “But ALLLLL these people want the card.” “There are too many copies for that price.” Any time someone starts talking about that I’m just like, “Okay, but how much has it sold for? Show me the figures.”
tl;dr No one would be surprised if these started consistently earning $1K+ at auction, but they haven’t yet. So when someone says they’ve sold TEN copies at DOUBLE the price they’ve been going for, we all have to take a second and ask where the proof is. The pros and cons on why this may or may not be a valuable card are completely irrelevant to that request for evidence.
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I don’t think anyone agrees with the 10 copies at 1100k or whatever that individual stated.
What people are discussing or highlighting is the cards realistic trajectory, by considering the variables of actual sales, scarcity, rarity, grade-ability, etc.
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Then there are two simultaneous discussions going on. Because @melcher and I were definitely just talking about that specific statement.
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This. My doubt is that he even had 10 copies to begin with, let alone the random price. I just find it odd that, for example, a 1st edition Charizard sells at auction for X and its value is marked. This Machamp sells for $600 at auction and people are finding it tough to believe the value is relevant or correct (at least that was some of my interpretation). Time will tell, but lets just say I am happy to have mine!
I never said “it wasn’t worth it” the last one i’ve seen go for auction went for about $300-$350, i’m just surprised it went up so fast is all.
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One just went for $700. This is the year to complete base set before it’s out of reach for a lot of people
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We made a bunch of people nervous. They started grabbing. 
And one went at auction yesterday at $660 (listing wasn’t labelled shadowless)
It was not 10 copies it was "his last 10 (psa 10) went for $1,100) hope that clears up everyone thinking i said 10 copies 
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It’s amazing what a person will be willing to spend just to be the other person they are bidding against, me personally i got caught up a couple times and spend a few bucks over but on nothing big most of that stuff I bid at the average price.