I have only seen Saturn holos on Portuguese cards, not for English, pretty neat
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magnificent! I personally also don’t wear a lot. I like a subtle less graphic look for most of my clothing.
Is it from the JP store?
I personally feel that the Rev Holo Mints (9,10) for DP P are underratted right now. They’re some hard cards to grade, and then German on top of that!? Epic card!
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US Store, most sizes are gone
https://www.pokemoncenter.com/product/70-10765/pokemon-celio-lugia-and-ho-oh-t-shirt-adult
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Neat! I didn’t know any English cards had the saturn pattern either. I did some digging on Ebay, and it seems like there are two versions of this card: one with the normal cosmos holo and another with this saturn holo/different swirl pattern. Some of the pictures are somewhat hard to make out, but the patterns match up. Maybe they came from different print facilities or runs.
Note: Just looked at a couple more, and maybe the orange pattern doesn’t guarantee a saturn. Maybe only if it’s in proximity with the double swirl pattern? This card, for example, has the right orb spacing along the bottom but doesn’t look like it has the saturn (and may also be missing the double swirls).
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Thanks very much for the detailed investigation!
Trawling through old Reddit threads suggests there were only 2 English Saturn Swirls produced: Manaphy and Lucario from 2007 Diamond & Pearl Trainer Kit. These were the only 2 holos in the set. All images of these, the Saturn’s are always in the bottom right corner.
One thread says they are confirmed fakes, but in another thread, our esteemed @Quuador seems to suggest otherwise?
I think the Saturn is linked to the misaligned double Swirl. I’ve never seen swirls that are not perfectly aligned in the vertical or horizontal. My copy has no holo bleed, but I’ve seen really strong bleeds on some without Saturn’s.
If it’s a fake, it’s the best I’ve ever seen!
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I assume you’re referring to this thread: Share Cosmos Holo's With the Same Pattern - #11 by Quuador?
Although it’s still at my US middleman to this day (since September 2024.. he will ship everything I bought in the last year to me soon 
) and I haven’t checked in person, I’m still pretty confident that they’re real. The Manaphy is still the only English card on which I’ve seen the Saturns in the holofoil that’s commonly seen on Portuguese cards from the HGSS/BW era.
Although it makes sense if the English Lucario from the same Trainer Kit might be available with the Saturn in its holofoil as well.
Greetz,
Quuador
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Thanks for replying in this thread. That is indeed the Reddit link I found.
Here’s the Lucario (not mine). The swirl on his hand is approximately in the same position as on the Manaphy, again with the Saturn in the bottom right.
I’d love to compare when you get your version.
Also, sorry if this topic is better suited to the “Error” megathread, or if I should have started a separate topic.
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It’s so weird that the saturn is nearly always in that one position, and that the double swirls that I’ve seen for this card are also in similar positions. It almost seems like that particular pattern was only on the bottom of the holofoil sheet or something and therefore can only be found in the bottom row of printed Manaphies.
I’m inclined to believe they’re real too, based on the proportion of them with this other holo pattern among the total listings. Maybe I’ll get a couple of beat up ones and acetone them.
This can happen with original-cosmos-like swirls in Call of Legends. There’s a Lugia in the double swirl thread that shows this offset swirl placement. It can possibly happen very rarely in earlier cards too, with one example being the Best of Game Hitmonchan (also in the double swirl thread somewhere). Newer swirl patterns (or different swirl patterns, like this saturn holo one) may also be different.
Anyways, it’s interesting stuff!
Edit: Just bought some to acetone out of curiosity.
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This has gotta be my new favorite piece of clothing! (New Pokémon Concierge Hawaii shirt – I really like the old one, too, but this one is just pure love!)
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I was able to get my hands on Cyrus’ Secret Teams sleeves for much much cheaper than what they’re normally listed for!
Been wanting to get my hands on it for years now (but never really had the money for it as a student…) so I’m really glad the listing showed up for me when it did aaa
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Carton of 2025 English Illustration promo 3card(pikachu, feraligatr, toxtricity) sealed packs. Im confident these will do well over time.
Also been buying loads of sv jt + mega booster box topper promos sealed.
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finally back from grading. now i have the 1st and 2nd movie in japanese graded and
second one in english. just need first movie in english
thanks to @stagecoach for selling me this VHS in excellent condition with artwork inside aswell
and thanks for @brendantheclayboy for middling for me
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I didn’t know even VHS’ could be graded, that’s so cool!
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ofc they can i only grade those in good condition if they are not sealed and ofc sealed but yea i have most of indigo league factory sealed graded VHS some Japanese ones also 1 sealed which is quite rare and some of the movies VHS graded
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matches my copy signed in 2002. MTG is so cool 
12$ and it’s signed? So different from pokemon
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