Pokemon Stadium on N64 is better than the new Scarlet/Violet
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Pokemon Stadium on N64 is better than a lot of things.
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Opinions:
- I like the physical/special split…however, I like how it was before even more
- A certain degree of movepool restrictions is very good
- Gold and Silver are miles better than HGSS
- Competitively speaking, gen 1 to gen 2 is the biggest jump (this is barely an opinion and I doubt it’s unpopular but still, there ya go)
- Gen 3 is the peak of competitive Pokemon with gen 2 behind by a hair (gen 5 would maybe take this prize if it was weighted a little better…again, probably not unpopular)
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What do you like more about Gold and Silver?
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These are some very very hot takes wow. I love gen 3 but how can u think the games were better before physical special split? It makes quite a few pokemon WAY worse than they should be (like Flareon).
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Everything. Graphics, mechanics, glitching, in-game limitations (not grinding and tms, but those are present in HGSS as well,) compatibility with N64 and gen 1. HGSS are visually beautiful.
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It’s mostly metagame related for me, gen 3 is the closest they’ve come to make a balanced gen without the typical growing pains and dominant type and that is in large part due to not having the physical/special split. Removing it multiplied the power creep factor with every new gen and it meant that a whole heap of Pokemon that previously could just stop certain Pokemon could no longer do so (which is not a good thing.)
Some bad pokes became slightly less bad (like your Flareon), some strong ones became even stronger (like Gengar who is just as much of a staple in ADV as in DPP and Gyarados who is a specialist sweeper in ADV that just straight K.O’s certain matchups,) but this is the small picture. The big picture is how the whole economy of the metagame shifted to where teams become more and more uniformed, standardized and boring. Don’t get me wrong, I love every gen 2-6 tier with a burning passion but after thousands and thousands of hours of playing and watching games I am convinced that the pre-split system is the one I enjoy the most. Though there are things to be said about both.
Also, before anyone says it, Gen 2 is undoubtedly standardized but it has so many other competitive qualities. It’s the Pokemon version of chess with RNG.
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Thats why I love fire red and leaf green. All the nostalgia if the original games with the polish added from gen 3 games
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The amount of game in gen 2, the gen 1 tribute are big factors. Now, when I say gen 1 tribute, it’s not important that it’s gen 1, but simply that it’s referring to a previous game. Like acknowledging and building on the previous adventure, instead of ignoring it, BUT ALSO introducing newcomers to the previous game, without repeating Red and Blue. Everyone who started with Johto, also became familiar with Kanto to a large degree, but it was fresh for everyone.
Real-time Night and Day was a big deal too, and because it disappeared in the next gen, I think that impacted the nostalgia for gen 2 as well.
Similarly, HGSS really nailed the touch controls (not DP, only HGSS) only to have BnW make a new layout that lost some functionality. And there was the party pkmn following you, which has not been back since. I feel that Gen 2 and the remake were a testing ground for good ideas that then disappeared, which created a kind of longing for the games, even if it’s just particular elements. (But I don’t think it is.)
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The Gen 2 night/day thing was huge. My 10 year old mind was blown 
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Pokemon Stadium as a kid is better than Scarlet/Violet as an adult is what I think you meant to say. There’s no way you can consider Stadium objectively better than SV 
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Played both in the last month. I stand by what I said.
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well… Here’s a general unpopular opinion: “Better” is a subjective reference within which nothing can be objective. So, no game can be objectively better than another. “More” or “higher quality” are objective and measurable, but “better” is itself, subjective. 
I gotta say, in many ways, pokemon stadiums were more entertaining than some pokemon games (and if you include game boy tower, they also included the gen1 and 2 games - a stretch, I know).
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Comparing gen 1 with gen 9 is like comparing Queen with Bad Bunny.
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My ranking of Gen 1 and 2 is entirely dependent on Stadium 1 and especially Stadium 2. They are integral. And, vice versa. The Stadium games without the transfer packs wouldn’t be half as good.
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I guess my unpopular opinion is that the mini games in stadium 1 and 2 are the most valuable features in those games
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I see what you both mean. HGSS didn’t have that same connection (figuratively and literally) to a Gen 1 title since the previous game in Kanto was for a different system. Anytime I’ve compared GS to HGSS I was putting GS into a vacuum and not considering what it could do outside of just the game.
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This is not unpopular, wrong thread man.
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Nothing better than the Lickitung game
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