What about these guys!
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…Sorry. As a professional artist AND a computer scientist, this turned into a diatribe. Read the entirety if you want, but here’s the TL;DR
The understanding of art and it’s place in society, and the creation of a tool to make it trivial to create marginally good art - these things are not in conflict. Those who would seek to monetize AI art ARE in conflict with the Entirety of Human Civilization and Culture.
@sircharleszard , the AI extended art is pretty neat, but it’d be great if done by a human (as I’m sure we mostly all agree).
Again, I have to call to mind the non-human-creator nature of AI created work, the necessity of Intellectual Property to corporations, and the inherent legal incompatibility of the two. At least for now, no one can make money on AI art, so it needs to fill a need without the art itself being the product. It’s a non-starter which would be mired in years of legal weeds, and no one wants to plan on making money that way.
HOWEVER, it will certainly replace drafters and artists for non-copyrighted work, like instruction manuals, etc. But that’s been happening for decades. My dad was a drafter for HP and you probably have seen his work… Whole dept. got axed nearly 20 years ago. So nixing those kinds of positions is nothing new.
ie. Disney will never switch to AI… unless they want their movies to be lambasted even more. haha Others will be similar. You NEED adaptable human artists, because those who can get the same thing from AI (or fix what AI produces) will be a scarce commodity.
Yes. As both a computer scientist, AND a professional artist, I cannot agree with Bubbles. There IS nuance, and while I think it will hinder commercial art, art for the sake of art and expression can never be matched by an AI, UNLESS it is a True or General AI, in which the intelligence thinks and performs solely for it’s own motivations, and not because it was given a prompt. BUT THAT is not the point here:
Computer scientists are using THEIR OWN creativity to create these things. Just because it happens to produce something that puts our non-professional art to shame, DOES NOT mean that they don’t understand art and it’s meaning. The AI itself, is art, as it’s not a methodical step by step exact process and technique. The tool is the tool. I would argue that the burden of responsibility falls to those who USE IT.
The understanding of art and it’s place in society, and the creation of a tool to make it trivial to create marginally good art - these things are not in conflict. Those who would seek to monetize AI art ARE in conflict with the Entirety of Human Civilization and Culture.
…or when they decide the artists are not to be compensated. 
I’m with you here. I will call AI art “Fake Art” because it has no soul. It has no intention. There is nuance there as well, BUT by and large my previous statement is true. Even a 10 year old who puts passion and thought into creating a mediocre-by-professional standards song, has created higher art than the flippant work of an AI (as we know AI today vs GAI of the future). There is some use though, for fake art, such as clipart and graphics that need to look especially spiffy, but not actually be good valuable art. AI Art is disposable, worthless art? Yeah, That’s ok as a description with me. Like that $1 slice of pizza in NYC where everyone goes at least once, but honestly… is not sure if it’s worth it while you walk down the street on a cold night eating it.
But AS an Artist who spent those thousands of days in the studio, breaking bones, and sweating and bleeding and throwing up, I cannot for One Moment blame the scientists that create these things. We have to remember that they are separate from those who are trying to monetize AI. They are merely expressing their passions too.
Background:
See article on AI v General/True AI “Forbes AI Vs AGI: What’s the Difference”
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What happened here?!
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As a professional programmer & designer and avid art hobbyist, I feel zero threat by AI. The things I do in my day to day cannot be replaced by AI and most likely never will in my lifetime.
AI is an incredibly helpful tool and it’s sped up so many facets of my workflow. The work I do professionally is so nuanced that there’s no way AI could replace it wholly. It would take longer to write the prompt to feed the AI than to actually just do the work itself.
The only way AI could be faster is if we had it hooked up to our brains so we would resolve the typing bandwidth issue. But I don’t really see that in my lifetime.
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These aren’t amazing, but I put in a lot of effort of regenerating specific parts until it looks halfway cohesive.
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Wow nice. I did the cubone, abra didn’t really work for me.
You are right, it’s a pain to get something looking half decent.
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Sorry, but this is a ridiculous comparison that needs to be called out.
What artistry or creativity went into copying writing word for word?
It was a thankless task that got automated, and if you think the creation of art is thankless, well, what does that say about you?
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My point was that people tend to be resistant to change and are afraid of the unknown. It’s a human bias built into all if us. The reality is we don’t really know how this will all play out.
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It was a bad example.
Art does not need to be automated. That defeats the purpose of art.
If you’d used something like cashiers it would’ve made more sense. Jobs that nobody dreams of having but are forced to work in.
As for not knowing, we can make an educated guess, which, like anything currently, is basically capitalists exploiting it to make more money at the expense of society. AI is phenomenal for science, testing etc. and that’s where it should be used since it can generate results thousands, millions of times faster than humans can.
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There is a lot of virtue signaling in this thread.
I hate to state the obvious, but there’s nothing wrong with having an opinion on either side of the aisle here. Supporting the integration of AI into art doesn’t make you an awful person intending to destroy artists’ livelihoods. Rejecting the integration of AI into art doesn’t make you a boomer who is afraid of change.
Why can’t we just agree to disagree and move on? I don’t see anyone changing their mind about this contentious topic any time soon. We had this exact conversation last month and it’s beginning to feel like groundhog day.
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I think the issue is that it feels like theres a lot more at stake than just having an opinion. Its easy to agree to disagree and move on with your life if this doesnt directly effect you, but if youre in a position where youve had to take down art pages, leave platforms, or potentially have your livelihood as an artist threatened by something like this— its gonna be difficult to just shrug it out and be like “whatever.”
I think saying its virtue signaling is kinda dismissive of people who have valid reason to feel concerned about this
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If you don’t like it you can just read a different page instead of feeling the need to control the conversation, or simply scroll past the posts that are “virtue signaling” (which saying that by the way is a backhanded jab clearly meant to be aimed towards a few specific ppl in this thread, including me, without actually addressing them, which is an odd thing to do–and wrong to boot–so maybe better to keep such opinions to yourself)
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Virtue signalling, really?
Clearly you only mean those against AI, so you can drop the neutral act.
It’s honestly incredible that people can’t see or won’t see the difference and then continue to draw up bad faith comparisons.
Tbh I think both calling one side virtue signalling and the other overly fearful is a bit of a disservice.
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This is supposed to be a lighthearted thread to just see what some Pokémon card art looks like if extended with this new AI feature. If people want to try and do more card arts feel free.
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I just want more of those extended Sleepy HYOGONOSUKE Pokemon, my background folder demands it.
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Legit me seeing this post a day ago and checking in on it today… I was just here to look at cool art…
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