There’s a bot on the E4 discord in the #psa-cert-check channel that lets you see the grades in advance if they are at the right stage.
Waiting is the other option that will work
There’s a bot on the E4 discord in the #psa-cert-check channel that lets you see the grades in advance if they are at the right stage.
Waiting is the other option that will work
I have the grades; just when I click on the cert number to see the information of the card it says it “can’t be found in the PSA database”. This is the same for my whole sub. It completed sometime this morning.
When it officially ships out and a tracking # is provided
You can probably use the discord bot if you are dying to know but otherwise yeah just wait until they ship
I definitely had a reading comprehension problem here but worth sharing the discord bot feature anyway
The Cramorant got the 9 but at least the Pikachu got the 10
I think I must have missed something/am embarrassingly late to the party but:
did something change with CGC? I am looking at the upcoming HA block and there are a ton of CGC Pristine and Perfect 10s on vintage pokemon (mostly from 2003-2010 ish.
Is that normal? Is it not normal? idk
IMO you’re seeing the results of changing grading standards. It seems like it’s a controversial opinion on whether or not it happened based on past discussions about this topic. I believe it did but others might disagree. I think CGC was getting killed by the market’s reaction to their harsher grading standards and PSA re-opening so they eased up on their grading standards.
You don’t see nearly as many 10’s on the original style CGC labels
It shouldn’t be controversial since the data demonstrates it to be so in this case. It used to be like 1:200 newback japanese cards would get the 10 but just look at any sub today, it’s not even close.
They probably wanted to capture the “black label” vibe on their perfects but it never ended up be perceived that way. And while a lot of people praised their “stricter grading”, that works great if you’re buying the strict+high grade but it doesn’t work well for sellers when their orders get decimated with 8.5s and suddenly the card is more expensive outside the slab.
It’s probably a smart move to pivot away from trying to capture the black label allure and instead try to capture the larger “PSA 10 only” crowd. The problem is that the optics of so blatantly changing your scale are not great and also you punish your earliest and most loyal submitters. They’ve effectively downgraded the perceived value of any card I had submitted in the past because 10 is the new 9.5 which is the new 9 which is the new 8.5, etc. It might be the right play in the long term but they have obviously annoyed many submitters in the process
I don’t shop for CGC cards often so I really hadn’t noticed. When I had bought CGC cards in the past it was with the intent to cross and hope for a PSA 10. I was typically fine rolling the dice with a 9.5 but based on this change I might not buy 9.5s anymore and only look to buy 10s (if ever).
I’ll be curious to see what this does for the resale value of their cards. Something that would have graded a 9.5 but is now Pristine 10 might sell for more, but the optics might off set that. That’s assuming buyers arent like me and are aware of the grading scale change.
Agree with you 100% that it shouldn’t be controversial, I think the data is there as well. I stated that because the last time I posted something along those lines the responses were “yOu DoNt KnOw ThAt FoR sUrE”.
Good point about the black label vibe. I respect them for attempting to establish a premium on their higher grades and it would have probably been a good market strategy had PSA remained closed for longer. If they had the revenue streams and fortitude to hold the course, I would say that it would be a good long term strategy.
However, like you said, they effectively punished their early submitters with the 8.5 plague. I will personally not grade anything with them anymore after having effectively wasted hundreds of dollars in grading fees to get wiped by 8.5 grades on cards that I would be confident in sending to PSA and getting much better results.
I’m honestly surprised their grading fee’s haven’t dropped given that their bulk turnaround time is supposedly 1 week
Ive cracked some of my old cgc slabs which i sent when they first opened, regraded with psa, and some with cgc, without any exceptions every single card regraded higher. I had CGC 8.0s regrade PSA 10. I had a CGC 8.0 regrade a CGC 10 even. CGC lost all credibility after that, i wont ever use them for anything i can grade somewhere else. Id prefer the basement grading company over CGC at this point. I basically wasted the time and money it takes to grade 500 cards with them. I dont really have regrets in my life, i make a lot of mistakes, i can live with them, but using CGC is something i wish i could go back and undo.
I highly doubt a few years from now people will still be talking about CGC grading standard changes. PSA probably changed their grading standards multiple times in the last 20 years.
Undoubtedly losing customers and gaining bad reviews along the way, which is part of business i guess. It doesnt change my experience though!
Be thankful you didn’t spend top dollar thinking those old 9.5s and 10s would remain super low pop. I genuinely feel bad for anyone who overpaid early on.
Ill be thankful when i see the last of my CGC gone…
I don’t remember a time when another grading company changed their standards like cgc did recently. Also I think it’s the combo of a dramatic change plus gaslighting customers by saying nothing changed.
Eh PSA has been back and forth sometimes with more severe and a little more lax, im sure BGS is the same way, but this CGC was so apparent, even for people that don’t collect/search/submit for CGC. It went from never seeing gold in searches to just tons of them. Everyone talked about how they liked the strict grading and now thats clearly gone. Its so obvious they knew they needed to change and did just that to keep market share, but didn’t really announce it as that would be something deadly to admit and not sure how they could without issue.
You could easily argue CGC had a slight change to their grading, but the cards you have shown are pop 1 and pop 2 cards. Still hard to get a CGC 10, especially for vintage stuff.
https://www.cgccards.com/population-report/pokemon/2/e-series/52/skyridge-english/4360/?page=7