I bought 3 “unlimited” L2 mirrors when it was actually first edition. The 1st edition stamp doesn’t show up in photos. So you have to ask to confirm details if you can’t tell from the photos themselves
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Don’t gaslight me. I don’t accept the premise of jerks like this seller, and I won’t budge on you trying to make me feel like the bad guy because I’m %100 right.
You’re angry because you bought a mislabeled card? That’s an issue that you should take up with PSA, not the seller.
That is something the seller could have taken up with PSA then too.
If you were looking for a specific type of holo finish on this promo, why didn’t you ask for more photos or for clarification if you were unsure from the available photos?
The card was presented as specifically being a version of that card that it was not. I had no reason to believe it was mislabeled. I took the stance that maybe the seller just didn’t know what the different types actually looked like. That is why I presented them with information. On their response it was clear that they just wanted to fob off this card on someone who didn’t know better or who wouldn’t try to fight back against their dishonesty. If they wanted to be clear from the start they could have and should have shown it more clearly, and could have also mentioned it being mislabeled, they did not.
But in short, I shouldn’t have to. Again, I reject the premise.
Also, your tone in this message is unnecessarily aggressive and demanding for a $42 card
If you think that my tone there was aggressive then you can point out why, because that was about as cordial as possible and I laid everything out even giving them the benefit of the doubt still. By that point it was clear they had intended to be dishonest for the start to me, but either way I wasn’t accepting anything less than my money back. The only question was, do they want the card back or not. The choice was theirs.
Edit: also I don’t give a hoot about the price of the card. It could be $0.25 If someone wants to try to pull a stunt like this, I won’t let it slide. If you think that money should dictate whether or not I should stand up for myself then you and I fundamentally disagree on what is right and wrong.
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Fascinating
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You asked him what he could do about the mixup and he offered you a $10 partial refund which I don’t think is unreasonable. Then you proceed to say you’re seeking a full refund and even suggest you keep the card and get refunded.
If you wanted to return the card, then why didn’t you just ask him if you could return it for a refund instead of asking him what can be done about the issue. I would block any buyer who suggests they get a full refund and keep the card because of a simple misunderstanding. The seller probably has no idea what the difference is. Even PSA doesn’t seem to know sometimes. I didn’t even know before I looked it up just now.
I think the only thing wrong with the seller was not offering a full refund for return of the item. Nowadays I always suggest returning for a full refund in a case like this, but when I just started selling on eBay I didn’t want returns because it hurts more when you’re not selling much. Seller only has a hundred feedback so he is pretty new to selling on eBay.
Lastly, I know you want this card so I’ll give a suggestion on obtaining it. Personally, I would just buy 5-10 TCGplayer listings in hopes that one is a Pixel Cosmos because I don’t think most sellers know about this version and it doesn’t seem to be differentiated on TCGplayer.
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You asked him what he could do about the mixup and he offered you a $10 partial refund which I don’t think is unreasonable. Then you proceed to say you’re seeking a full refund and even suggest you keep the card and get refunded.
It doesn’t matter, I didn’t want the card at all. If you can read the ebay email to me, that is exactly what they say. He had two options. I was going to get a refund. I didn’t care if he wanted it back or not. I suggested ebays exact policy, if you dont’ like that, that isn’t somehow my fault.
If you wanted to return the card, then why didn’t you just ask him if you could return it for a refund instead of asking him what can be done about the issue.
I left it up to the seller to make a suggestion on it. Why is this point even a bugbear for you?
I would block any buyer who suggests they get a full refund and keep the card because of a simple misunderstanding. The seller probably has no idea what the difference is. Even PSA doesn’t seem to know sometimes. I didn’t even know before I looked it up just now.
You seem entirely willing to ignore entirely that I provided detailed and explicit examples of what happened here. And upon being given the information, they decided to make an offer that didn’t work for me. You are also making the assumption that it even was a “simple misunderstanding”. I won’t pretend to read their mind, but you certainly seem willing to in order to paint me as being, wrong here. And oh look, now we are giving PSA a pass too. Spelndid. Shall we give CGC an oopsie pass too? How about BGS? Lack of knowledge doesn’t mean I want to just let a transaction stand.
And in the end, despite my offer to do it the easy way, they chose the hard way. They could have said “oh sorry, I didn’t even know, now I do. That was informative.” And we could have had a good interaction".
Its absolutely incredible that saying “eh, its your problem now” is just okay to you. Once again I just roundly reject the very premise that I should just lay down and take it.
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Whichever way you slice it, you keeping the card and the money does not mean ‘justice is served’.
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You don’t think it’s a little funny you’re trying to be “informative” when YOU didn’t notice it was mislabeled either?
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Crazy saga man, what’s your ebay user name? If you don’t mind sharing
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The ebay block list presents itself sometimes
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So, there’s a LOT to unpack in this whole exchange and subthread…
I think if, you’re still wondering what you can do, at THIS point, the situation has become charged and it needs to be diffused before progress can be made. Even then, you may have painted yourself into a corner. I don’t see ebay finding the listing to be in error since it’s what’s on the label, and in the picture.
I think you feel it’s not just, but even so, an apology for any perceived blame or aggression would be prudent to calm the situation. Additionally, whether it’s your fault or not, does it matter if it gets you what you want?
"I apologize for coming out too strong at first. Would it still be possible to do the 50%? (or a return for a refund? …or whatever option you, @SolemnStar would want.) That’s my advice moving forward in THIS specific instance, at this point.
edit: Oh! Then I stand corrected. Sorry. I missed the ebay resolution part. 
I guess there WAS a lot to read through.
I recently bough a non TCG item. Dude tossed it in a PWE. It probably got lost or torn up during the new year rush, so I told him, and we agreed to wait till month’s end, and he’d give a refund or resend. Then Jan 31 I said, “Still MIA,” and he comes back with
-“I thought your address looked funny, so it’s probly your fault. Not sending it again.”
-"Why’d you ship it the first time? No less, it’s my address where everything arrives… "
-“No. You need to fix your address because I shipped it already.”
-Filed the non-receipt, Moved on.
Escalation is sometimes inevitable.
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I think you might be confused. Ebay gave me a full refund and I can keep it.
the progress was thus
I bought the item
It arrived
I saw it was mislabeled
I reached out to the seller
The conversation led nowhere
I asked ebay to step in
Ebay reached out to seller, giving them 5 days to send me a return shipping method
they chose not to
I got a full refund
It seems like you are under the impression that ebay sided with him, which they didn’t. The incident is fully resolved now.
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I did notice it was mislabeled, otherwise I’d be totally aloof to this day. If you mean on the listing, it wasn’t clear by the photo. Once I got it in hand, I was able to see. This card has a dark background, so its hard to tell. Once I noticed this, I reached out, and gave the information to the seller once I did realize the mistake.
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You should reach back out to the seller asking for a return label one last time. Saying you are entitled to keep it and get a refund is not a good look, reason e4 members are asking for your ebay username to get on the block list
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I think that is a good idea. I will give them one last communication. I’ll also send the scanned photo I took so that they can use that. I had to fuss with it in photoshop so that the holo pattern was actually visible.
I have no choice but to keep it if they don’t respond though. I don’t have the envelope, so even at my expense, I can’t just force it back into their hands.
And frankly while I’m willing to live and learn a little every day, I keep having negative experiences here. And I feel like I’m not welcome.
If people want to have a real conversation, I’m willing to. We all get grumpy, and I do too. In the last few months I’ve had lots of headaches with people selling on ebay. More than ever. I have bought a couple things since this event, and nothing this month at all or the end of january as I recall.
It doesn’t feel great to just get berated and given backhanded insults. But I get it, I’ve made myself into something of a punching bag. I came to share my frustration because it is frustrating.
I feel like trash. Maybe I am. I won’t ever be that way with anyone again. If that is all it comes down to, I won’t. I just won’t. I won’t parrot the ebay policy. I’ll just ask to return the item, and if they say no, then I’ll just move on. I’ll always assume the label is wrong and ask for additional photos, or if I feel its too much bother, I will pass on it. If this isn’t enough I ask geuinely, what is. To be asked for my information to block me feels about as bad as it gets. I’d rather not be that. And from here, besides reaching out to the seller again, if there is anything else I could possibly do, what is it? What puts me back on good terms with the members of the forum after this? I want to hope I’m not irredeemable. I really do feel bad. I want to not be a bad person and that means letting myself feel bad instead of just putting up a mental block of “you are just stupid”. So with a bruised ego I ask in earnest.
I’ll report back if the seller responds in 24 hours on if they want it back. If they don’t I’ll still report on if they ever respond.
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Thats all you can do, giving it one last try. If they don’t respond, its on them then.
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Nobody wants you to feel unwelcome here. We’re only pointing out you really overreacted over 40 bucks and a minor situation, then for some reason got really defensive when you didn’t get the vindication you wanted on here.
Also I don’t mean to be a jerk but I’m sure the seller isn’t responding to you because he was like “screw it, 40 bucks isn’t worth dealing with this guy.” Point I’m making is maybe don’t go in guns blazing next time something like this happens.
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My dude you text walled a seller on something THEY weren’t even aware of. Then YOU laid out the ultimatum. In a lot of the interactions you post here, you are pretty aggressive, if not overly passive aggressive. A “Hey man, I noticed a mistake, hoping we could figure something out” would be a lot easier to handle than GIVE ME MY MONEY F YOU STUPID GUY IM TELLING EBAY RIGHT NOW. If this is how you handle a $40 card, I don’t want to know what happens on anything more than that.
There’s a reason for the ratio you see in these likes.
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noted. However my response doesn’t correspond to value. I want to make that clear at least. And maybe other people do and is perhaps why the $ amount keeps being brought up, but I don’t. However that doesn’t change anything if I am flat out the one in the wrong which I am.
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Thank you for your response. See my post here, maybe you missed it. The Giant eBay Garbage Thread - #2334 by SolemnStar
I am sorry.
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