I don’t really get the hype for “waifu” cards. I have never purchased one and don’t ever intend to. They just aren’t cool to me. I think we’re just trying to find justification for the sudden price surge, but be weary of making harmful generalizations towards a segment of collectors.
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Telling a woman what to wear is irrelevant because she can and has the ability to do what she wants. She’s a legal adult. Telling a girl (a child) what to wear is just being an adult who cares about kids. A child by definition and by law cannot consent. In other words, a depiction of a child in a sexualized way is the creation of an adults distorted perception of reality. The child (the “girl” or “boy”) no matter what they think they can do, cannot depict themselves like that - they are a CHILD. It’s up to the adults of the world to protect them, certainly not encourage it, and definitely not create more of it. That’s the only point I think most are trying to make. If you realize that, whether you collect Waifu or not, you’re fine, go about your day.
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Buy what you like and collect for you. Everything else is noise.
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Sure, but the timing where these points all of a sudden being an issue after a boom all of a sudden instead of being asked before the boom is the current issue I’m not understanding. Why are people making an uproar about it now, in correlation to the prices and sale trends? Why weren’t people this vocal beforehand if this is such a hot topic?
Instead, why aren’t people actually addressing the real issues in Japan going on with these particular cards? I’m not talking about issues of what Japan views are suitable for the Eastern and Western audience, but the actual issues going on.
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The price increase puts it more into the spotlight.
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But at that point, if one’s a vintage collector, wouldn’t they be happy the spotlight has shifted off vintage now and to something else? Only reason I can think why someone wouldn’t enjoy vintage being in the spotlight is if they’re trying to sell their cards, but if one is collecting and set building vintage, this seems like a great time!
At best this is misguided and must be corrected, and at worst it is outright insidious, so I feel a moral compulsion to say something here: it is really wrong to adapt the rhetoric of actual women and girls and apply them to cartoon characters. The painful and stressful experiences of these real people have resulted in advocacy for their agency, for their choices, for the value of their consent, and they are seeking to enjoy a comfort level of their own deciding rather than one imposed or threatened upon them without risk of retaliation and condemnation from others.
None of that applies to cartoons. They have no agency, they can make no choices, can give no consent, and cannot exist in any way beyond the perspective of their illustrator. To diminish the experiences of real people to the two-dimensions of a caricature is the sort of humiliating objectification real women and girls produced this rhetoric to counter in the first place. I hope you will reconsider this kind of comment in the future, regardless of your perspective on these cards. This is not the way to defend them.
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I have been forced to monitor this thread for obvious reasons and despite being contentious it has been pretty civil so I’m proud of you all. There’s a clear difference between debating ideas and attacking others specifically and directly so let’s continue to avoid the latter
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One of my most hyped card for ages was Agatha because I needed her for my Kanto Gym and Elite Four trainer card collection.
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I enjoy collecting Weiss Schwarz just as much as collecting Pokemon and can agree it would be nice if they stop sexuallizing the clearly underage characters like Kud. Seriously though fuck those prices for both sides of Weiss and Pokemon.
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Thank you for including skyridge charizard as that is my favorite cad. 
But I don’t think it’s a grail
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Umbreon walked so Lillie could soar
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I had no idea how wild some of the Weiss cards are, yikes.
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Obviously there are pervs into waifu collecting but how many people actually know the age of the characters being depicted? Most of the designs are honestly just generic Japanese anime.
Isn’t Ash still like 10 years old or something? But nobody watches the anime.
Is Pokemon the only franchise where the main character hasn’t aged at all? Does anyone believe a 10 year old can travel the world by himself and win tournaments against adults?
With the new Scarlet and Violet game, Pokemon at least are trying to acknowledge that anyone can be a ‘student’ (player).
My only gripe with waifu collectors is that I cannot complete my FA trainer collection, though with cards like the Masked Royal and EBD promos and Rocket promos, I guess that was never going to happen anyway.
It’s NOT that the cards sexualize the trainers on them. Though some do… 
Scott’s not saying that. BUT those cards Are certainly viewed that way by some. And those who do, I’m sure justify it as “Just cards from a children’s card game.” 
I do wonder though, as I can think of at least 1, What waifu cards actually sexualize the character portrayed on it? Serious question. I’d say “that one Skyla” card, for sure. Others? Maybe “Karen XY whatever”…
I wonder if the second point here, ‘sexualizing women on cards’ is exaggerating the point a bit. Is it the card that sexualized the character, or are we reading a sexual PoV into the context of the card? (Again, SOME are certainly sexualized) Someone did bring up a good point too, that within japanese culture, sexualization of young women is a prevalent thing. I mean the national age of consent is 14? it has been raised to 18 in many prefectures.
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