Sgc charizard from Smpratte video

[ankleguy]

@pfm

This thread perfectly demonstrating why I dont care about condition after a certain threshold. Perfectly fine if people want to play this game but we’re really splitting hairs when comparing cards that are 99.7% mint to cards that are 99.8% mint

Well if the 0.1% was the difference between a $350,000 and a potential $1,000,000 card, the discussion is definitely justified. To most it would really not make a difference, but to the right high end collector, it can be a $500,000+ difference.

[connorc]

@pfm

This thread perfectly demonstrating why I dont care about condition after a certain threshold. Perfectly fine if people want to play this game but we’re really splitting hairs when comparing cards that are 99.7% mint to cards that are 99.8% mint

totally agree with you here. my caveat: if budget permits, then i’ll always go for the “pack fresh-est” card out there. meaning that i’m less concerned about factory defects (print lines, off-centering, tiny white nicks) than legitimate wear (scratching, whitening).

[gottaketchumall]

@pfm

This thread perfectly demonstrating why I dont care about condition after a certain threshold. Perfectly fine if people want to play this game but we’re really splitting hairs when comparing cards that are 99.7% mint to cards that are 99.8% mint

Me buying the card not the grade and deciding if I want to spend $50k, $350k, or $1MM.

[chewy]

@gottaketchumall

@pfm

This thread perfectly demonstrating why I dont care about condition after a certain threshold. Perfectly fine if people want to play this game but we’re really splitting hairs when comparing cards that are 99.7% mint to cards that are 99.8% mint

Me buying the card not the grade and deciding if I want to spend $50k, $350k, or $1MM.

Lmao

[pfm]

@ankleguy

@pfm

This thread perfectly demonstrating why I dont care about condition after a certain threshold. Perfectly fine if people want to play this game but we’re really splitting hairs when comparing cards that are 99.7% mint to cards that are 99.8% mint

Well if the 0.1% was the difference between a $350,000 and a potential $1,000,000 card, the discussion is definitely justified. To most it would really not make a difference, but to the right high end collector, it can be a $500,000+ difference.

Yeah and nearly 100% of the conversation is from people who aren’t/can’t pay that difference.

[microgypsy]

@pfm

This thread perfectly demonstrating why I dont care about condition after a certain threshold. Perfectly fine if people want to play this game but we’re really splitting hairs when comparing cards that are 99.7% mint to cards that are 99.8% mint

People look for perfection. It’s like racing, you could finish your lap in 27.02 sec and be the 2nd best or you could finish it in 27.01 sec and be the very best.

[pfm]

@microgypsy

@pfm

This thread perfectly demonstrating why I dont care about condition after a certain threshold. Perfectly fine if people want to play this game but we’re really splitting hairs when comparing cards that are 99.7% mint to cards that are 99.8% mint

People look for perfection. It’s like racing, you could finish your lap in 27.02 sec and be the 2nd best or you could finish it in 27.01 sec and be the very best.

It’s more like figure skating where the winner is determined by some quasi-subjective evaluation and the “real” winner probably depends on who you ask.

[admiral]

@pfm

@ankleguy

Well if the 0.1% was the difference between a $350,000 and a potential $1,000,000 card, the discussion is definitely justified. To most it would really not make a difference, but to the right high end collector, it can be a $500,000+ difference.

Yeah and nearly 100% of the conversation is from people who aren’t/can’t pay that difference.

I agree. Only multi-millionaires should be posting in this thread. The rest of you poverty people just get out!

*gets out*

[parkermrparker]

Im taking bets on its grade at bgs. Dont pm me for details im only joking

[KingPokemon]

@qwachansey

People underestimate the difficulty of WOTC holo BGS 10s.

I sent a few cards to BGS several months back that I would be shocked if did not receive a PSA 10 and none got BGS 10. It was a poor financial decision as the BGS 9.5+ grade does not carry the price premium I think it should; too often people equate all BGS 9.5 as the same when there is a world of quality difference with a 9.5/10/9.5/9.5 and a 9.5/9.0/9.5/9.5.

Here is an example, this card is twice the price in PSA 10 and would be an easy crossgrade, which in hindsight I should’ve done myself before selling, with the price it got I would’ve preferred to just keep anyway.
www.ebay.com/itm/353303183785

IMO if someone wants to crossgrade the Charizard it will get a PSA 10 and a BGS 9.5++

Centering 9.5
Corners 10
Edges 9.5
Surface 10

Just to be clear, there’s no way to guess a BGS 10 for “surface” viewing it through a case on video. The huge majority of BGS cards get docked a bit for “surface”,

[chewy]

@parkermrparker

Im taking bets on its grade at bgs. Dont pm me for details im only joking

Its virtually flawless and two different grading companies professionally graded it as such and signed off on it as pristine 10/10

*sends it to Beckett

*comes back a year later graded 7.5 with a piece of lent stuck in the case

[KingPokemon]

Normally I like opinion threads when dealing with generalities, not specifics like this as much.

I think this all comes down to is it worth it or does it make sense to try to cross grade this at BGS? I’d defer to Scott who has the card in hand and knows exactly what he’s doing. And not only that, I wish him only the best.

[pfm]

@admiral

@pfm

Yeah and nearly 100% of the conversation is from people who aren’t/can’t pay that difference.

I agree. Only multi-millionaires should be posting in this thread. The rest of you poverty people just get out!

*gets out*

Never said that. People can discuss whatever they want. But if you’re not in the tier of people that can afford this card it’s probably healthy to acknowledge that ultimately your opinion is irrelevant.

Which just goes back to my original post here. This level of chasing perfection and the exponential increase in value associated with an exponential decrease in conditional differences is absurd to me. But ultimately my opinion is irrelevant because I’m not in this tier of the market even if I wanted to be.

[EnlightenedBulbasaur]

@pfm

@admiral

I agree. Only multi-millionaires should be posting in this thread. The rest of you poverty people just get out!

*gets out*

Never said that. People can discuss whatever they want. But if you’re not in the tier of people that can afford this card it’s probably healthy to acknowledge that ultimately your opinion is irrelevant.

Which just goes back to my original post here. This level of chasing perfection and the exponential increase in value associated with an exponential decrease in conditional differences is absurd to me. But ultimately my opinion is irrelevant because I’m not in this tier of the market even if I wanted to be.

I agree with you 100%. It was one of the big reasons I sold all of my graded set cards and intend on replacing them with near mint binder copies.

[nikhil]

@pfm

@microgypsy

People look for perfection. It’s like racing, you could finish your lap in 27.02 sec and be the 2nd best or you could finish it in 27.01 sec and be the very best.

It’s more like figure skating where the winner is determined by some quasi-subjective evaluation and the “real” winner probably depends on who you ask.

Figure skating is such an underrated sport.

[gottaketchumall]

@pfm

@pfm don’t sell yourself short. You or I could sell our entire 9 collections of hundreds of cards if we wanted to get the single card in a 10 grade.

[hypernova]

The SGC 10 looked far better than the PSA 10 that sold at the same time, imo

[missingno]

Where’s that link…?

[kpod]

@missingno

Where’s that link…?

YouTube, it’s easy

[chewy]

@missingno

Where’s that link…?

- YouTube