@zorloth, two points – If they did pursue action, they would NOT want word to get out that something had been printed outside of intended distribution or that this was even possible, so we the public consumer likely would not know about it.
And if they never caught wind, it’s more likely this was a one-time mistake that the printing company/employee(s) was afraid to tell Pokemon about since it looks bad from the vendor end to screw up a job to this extent. I say more likely it was one-time, because this guy would’ve been caught eventually if he kept it up.
Zorloth - off-topic but is alt 4th edition from MtG worth anything these days? I found a full set in my closet plus quite a few loose cards and a few sealed booster packs. Not sure how those escaped my great purge of 2016
Yup! You could probably sell the complete set pretty easily, since that’s not easy to put together. As far as the value – it’s pretty niche, but if you find the right buyer, you could probably sell it for close 10x what a normal 4th Edition set is worth.
As far the as the booster packs, I was under the impression that you could only get it from starter decks. Either way, Alt 4th sealed product is insanely rare, but niche, so it’s not worth a crazy amount but it’s not worth nothing either. There was a starter brick that sold for about $2k recently in the sealed collector group. So starter decks are probably in the $200 range each, if that’s what you have.
Awesome find!
EDIT: the 10x figure is assuming NM condition, which I’m assuming yours is in.
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Cool thx. Sorry I wrote booster but yes they are starter decks. Cards are in great shape. They are basically magic cards printed on traditional playing card material so are really sturdy
That’s awesome. I’ve never tried putting a set together, but I know it’s considered to be one of the most difficult sets to put together (as far as sourcing the cards is concerned). I wouldn’t be surprised if you could get $3k+ for the set to the right buyer.
FWIW, I bought two sets of gold star dogs off of someone that had multiple sets for sale. They also sold me two complete sets of Unseen Forces. All commons/uncommons/holos.
I think there may have been full sets printed including the gold stars, but the source I was talking to did not have the ex’s. Maybe those were left out? Or at least werent sold to the person I talked to from the original source.
Do you have any evidence besides the purchase you made that the full sets minus the exs might’ve been printed? Because that would be very interesting to know, if true.
One thing that makes me doubt it is that the full sheets were probably by rarity – that’s how it’s done with Magic, and I imagine that’s how it’s done with Pokemon (but I could be wrong, obviously). And it wouldn’t make sense for them to choose to separately print common, uncommon, and holo rare sheets because those cards are worth very little. It would be a lot of extra risk for very little payoff. The only way I could see it being true is if, for whatever reason, all sheets of the set could only be printed together, and not independently (for some reason related, maybe, to the coding of the machinery). But then that would make me wonder why the ex sheets weren’t also printed and cut? If they cut the common, uncommon, and holo rare sheets, they almost certainly also would’ve cut the ex sheet, I imagine.
Hmm, maybe. Another possibility, if it turned out that your theory was true, is that the printing methods used to produce the exs were different than the holos/non-holos.
I don’t really see it mattering. There’s no clear way to differentiate the two and unless one of the people who have a very large quantity are stupid enough to dump them all on Ebay at auction and watch the market crash then it doesn’t matter. Hell, I would like for that to happen so that I can grab some copies for cheap
Pure speculation, but I doubt the gold star dogs are the only case of this or something similar happening. Reasons why:
If they were able to get away with 5k gold star dogs, why wouldn’t the same person(s) be inclined to do the same with 5k gold star Regi-s in Legend Maker?
Or, maybe they printed 5k gold star dogs, because they previously started smaller and got comfortable? So maybe a couple thousand gen 4 starter gold stars from ex TRR?
If no one had posted their binder of hundreds of gold star dogs online, this easily could have been kept hidden from the public… especially after the gold star dogs incident, anyone involved in anything similar would likely be a lot more careful
The factory/ Pokemon company / etc. has very little incentive to publicly disclose that an incident like this happened, in their eyes, publicly acknowledging something like this could only hurt sales of official product
If it happened once, quality control/security at the factory can’t have been that great
Maybe the person who printed it did so just before leaving the company. They may not have wanted to risk their job doing it earlier however if they know they’re leaving anyway…
Bit of a shame that @randox posed a pretty good question at the end of that thread but it was locked due to it being a bump over 2 months. I imagine the fact that the thread has had basically no activity since 2018 is probably what attributes to the price rises as people just aren’t aware of these any more.
I think the supply has also just been absorbed pretty well. One thing that makes me think this is that Troll and Toad has very generous buylist prices on the Gold Star dogs.
That or there are still individuals/stores with thousands of copies. It’s interesting. But I agree that it’s also a function of many people just not being aware of the whole debacle.
I think so too. Although I think it’s made the gold star dogs bump down in tier for gold stars. They’re comparable to power keepers gold stars in price despite the print run difference. But overall they seem to have recovered
Oh, definitely. Were it not for the debacle, the EX Unseen Forces gold stars would be more expensive than Groudon/Kyogre, and maybe even comparable to Latias/Latios. They happen to be great-looking cards, too.
I don’t think people forgot that. It’s more like newer collectors have never heard of it, others need them for their Gold Star master set and a third group might see them as a chance to own at least some English Gold Stars as PSA 10.
