yes will be lengthy process xD
Isnāt it a personal preference? Both companies are very reputable and dominate the graded trading card market. For the BGS collectors out there they should be happy because BGS usually brings less money when it comes to Pokemon cards. As for pokesyn trying to push BGS too much I would say that is a joke. Because every time pokesyn mentions something about BGS there are 5 others trying to back up PSA.
You guys need to stop talking about practice and talk about the game. I mean really you talking about practiceā¦ not the game you go out there and die for you. You talking about practiceā¦
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*Flashback to AI stepping over Tyronn Lue*
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I canāt speak for anyone else, but I donāt think anyone here thinks Beckett is not reputable. I do think there are certain aspects, such as how invested they are in sales prices that are convoluted to the objectivity of a grade. But as you said though, that boils down to preference.
The problem outside of preference is that BGS doesnāt do well with Pokemon under grade 9. Even Ben (pokesyn) acknowledges this fact. PSA has had more history with pokemon, and does better with an overall standard. On the sports side of things, I donāt see the same level of inconsistency with Beckett that I do with Pokemon. I personally attribute it to their lack of experience, history and/or volume with the hobby.
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You guys are forgetting that PSA does not have a prestine gradeā¦
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A label is irrelevant in this instance. What you call your highest grade, does not impact on what your competition calls their highest grade.
Having a āPristineā label is simply marketing technique that suckers people in.
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The niche for BGS will be so small, it will be like very select few who will attempt this, and a long and frustrating journey. But so worth it, especially for japanese cards. If your an engrish collector, i dont think you have a choice but to go with PSA, but japanese There is a choice, though a very very insanely expensive one. It could take 10 auctioned gold star charizards to get the pristine, and they only come up once every 3-6 months on yahoo.
When I first came here, You said smpratte that PSA has no idea the difference between your shiny trophy pikachu, and your uncommon pikachu from jungle set, or something amoung those linesā¦ So Iām not sure what to think about the inconsistency, because i think its more of a whether you get high subgrade on the grade you get wiht bgs that will determine the overall mintyness of the cardā¦ SO maybe it is just that there mint 9/ 8.5 are so far below there 10, that some of there lower subgraded 9, and 9.5ās can turn out quite dreadfulā¦ I definitely couldnt accept sending in a card in a BGS 9 condition to begin with, unless it was GEM, but severely off centered. I once did say i would throw things at mint 9 bgs gradeā¦ But if sending in a card that is mint, sure it will get the 9.5 atleast.
Soon on 16th we shall see how this test goes, and Ill be able to take some really good photos of my returns, and compare them to some tingz.
Thing is, there pristine grade is literally pristine. No flaws whatsover. It doesnt seem to be sucking anyone in from the pokemon community, accept me lol. Which i am now fixated on, and will try and try.
people can accomplish psa 10, it is possible. But BGS pristine is virtually impossible, and noone will be willing. Imagine if Hisoka had to get all his Engrish ex series he took 6 years to get in bgs pristineā¦ It just wouldnt happenā¦ Hed be there for 100 years.
My entire collection is gone, it took me years to get those psa 10ās, but this time will take me much longer i think.
Hilarious. PSA 10ās are passive marketing strategies to sucker people in, because well theyāre easy to acquire.
Why not send to PSA. I mean who cares if the card is not perfect, the label says it is anyway.
This is complete nonsense.
You would have to find that quote, because I donāt remember that at all. Perhaps they mess up the year on a trophy pika.
No company out there has the āexpertā knowledge of Pokemon. Neither PSA or Beckett are bad, in the general sense. I think there is a quantifiable argument for PSA being better with pokemon, considering their history, and better overall range in grades. However, it is ultimately your preference.
I use Beckett occasionally for sports cards, just not pokemon. I think some of the guys here also use them as well for other hobbies.
I am trying to find the conversationā¦ It was when i was talking about sending in my 1st ever gold stars, and we where talking about whether i should claim them in bulk service or put them as claimed expensive dollans, and you said it wont matter because the grader will not know the difference when he is grading it. Im looking in the thread of psa inconsistancies but i have looked through nirly all and cant find it.
Also I do agree the inconsistancy is much higher for bgs with pokemon, that is the intrigueing thing i guess though, by having the standards higher, the lower grades will not match up to psaā¦ BUt this will be making them 10ās so hard to get, and higher above psa 10. hence the personal preference you mentioned.
aFTER LIKE 1 HOUR of searching through massive amounts of activity, I unearthed the conversation @smpratte MUHAHAHAHAHA
Thread - www.elitefourum.com/t/does-psa-give-higher-grades-favour-if-claimed-over-100us/13676/1
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Youāre in denial.
Throws up*
Hey @ozenigma Ima need that Kleenex now!
Id agree those corners on the bgs 9.5 is definitely the case.
Can you believe that tiny little dot on the right bottom side brought it down to a 9.5ā¦ there we goā¦ engrish you have nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hope. PSA is the only option. Unless you got the money to buy say 30-50 copies of each card. A crystal has been graded a gold label, engrish celebi crystal.
First things first, I really donāt care about grading, Iām very happy with my folderd cards, but I totally understand why people love grading. If I had the resources, I would probably do it.
Out of curiosity for those showing the love for BGS, would you be just as content with PSA if they had a black label and an inner sleeve for the card?
I feel like BGS is just this shiny alternative (no hate towards them, Garryās charizard is absolutely glorious and a thing of beauty) for Pokemon collectors. What happens when another grading company emerges with a more attractive label with a stricter marking criteria? Would people jump ship again?
There is only one person jumping ship lol
And that person would likely jump ship to another company if they double sleeved their cards and had platinum labels 
@danny GOO QUESTION SIR!!! THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I WOULD DO THE THINGSā¦ Id jump ship for double sleeve, and platinum label above a 10, if ther platinum label ment thatā¦ something like detection of minor minor minor that noone could see unless use magnify glass times 10,000. If the grade doesnt beat a bgs 10 in someway and it is just a double sleeve, then I would probably stay with bgs. Unless they got a massive science board out, and displayed difference in 2 sleeve vs 1 sleeve, and if there was any case in where it beats the protection somehow by 0.000001 percent. I AM FIRE. Im pretty confident that the double sleeve would be over doing it though, and couldnt be benefit. The aestetics of brushed aluminium and gold/black on BGS would be extremely hard to beat for me, the label would have to be like some kind of carrot gold or some crap.
Thanks for the nice compliment on my card:)
Unlikely any other company will come along and hurt PSA or BGS. SGC is reputable but continue to be a distant 3rd. Reputation is everything. Becketts Media has been around over 30 years and PSA 26 years. At least I wonāt see them knocked off their pedestals in my lifetime.
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