I have to say these are dead on, BGS is the most strict and perfect in grading i have seen. This card is flawless gem, and centering was only thing holding it back. If people have a high subgraded mint 9 at bgs then you can have a dam perfect card… I didnt expect them to knock this to a 9 when the average is a 9.5, Im just asking them now how it works.
garinson said Yeah, you can’t get a GEMMINT grade with an under mint sub, and rayquaza said similar. garinson said Yeah, you can’t get a GEMMINT grade with an under mint sub, and rayquaza said similar.
Nah I won’t be keeping these bad boys, I want the stars as 10s for my collection. I think if crossed over they would get a 10 at PSA, as they are better then the 10s I scored at PSA. Very high subgrades.
It is very scary how strict bgs is. The charizard, and quaza where both better condition then the psa 10’s I graded, and alakazam was absolutely flawless pack fresh GEM… So intregz, but scary.
Yeah i was reading this xD He got back to me from bgs when i said shouldnt it be 9.5 the kazam, and said. - That’s not how it works, read this:
Here is how we do it!
The overall numerical grade is not a simple average of the four report card grades. Beckett Grading Services uses an algorithm which determines the final grade using the 4 sub grades on the front label of the card holder. The lowest overall grade is the first category to observe because it is the most obvious defect, and the lowest grade is the most heavily weighted in determining the overall grade.
Example :
Centering = 9.5
Corners = 9.5
Edges = 9
Surface = 8
Final grade = 8.5
The reason that this card received an 8.5 is that even though the Surface grade was an 8 (the lowest grade overall), the 9.5 grades on Centering and Corners were strong enough to bring it up a full point to reach the 8.5 level.
Another example :
Centering = 9.5
Corners = 9.5
Edges = 8.5
Surface = 9
Final grade = 9
Upon first glance, it may appear that this card should’ve received a grade different than a 9. The most this card could receive was .5 (or one-half grade) above the lowest sub-grade. The Edges were the lowest in this case, hence, the card received the overall 9 grade. Even though Centering and Corners received grades of 9.5, a key point to remember is that the minimum requirement to receive a grade of Gem Mint is to have at least three grades of 9.5 and the fourth to be no less than a 9.
Also, please note that the final grade rarely, if ever, exceeds two levels above the lowest of the four characteristic grades. For example, if a card has characteristic grades of Centering 10, Corners 6, Edges 10 and Surface 10, the final grade will be a “7” (of which is exactly two grading levels above the lowest characteristic grade).
They actually directed me to there website, so they didnt actually type that up xD
Good read.
You know whats funny… I looked up the pop report on there website, and my alakazam is not under missing rarity symbol. Its with all the unlimited ones graded.
Except they didn’t go to any trouble. They copy and pasted from their site. And it isn’t even true.
From their FAQ “How final grades are determined” is where the copy/paste was done. www.beckett.com/grading/faq
The point about a gem mint needing all 9 or higher is false as many cards have been 10/10/10/8.5 and gotten a 9.5 Gem Mint. I saw a conversation on another board about it in the past, but can’t find the link. They had of a few such cards invalidating the statement made in the FAQ. I think only surfaces could be the 8.5 subgrade. Any other subgrade as 8.5 with the rest 10s wouldn’t get GEM MT so they must value surfaces the least.
Well yours was 10/10/9.5/8.5. I have never seen one of those as a 9.5, just the 10/10/10/8.5 and even some of those have gotten 9’s from what I have read. It depends on what the 8.5 is in. It really should be some straightforward way that you can calculate the grade from inputting all the subgrades. They should have a calculator on their site. Clearly they must value some subgrades moreso than others, but to put examples and things in your FAQ that are clearly false (speaking of subs<9 on a gem mint) is really just stupid.
Hmmms the card was flawless. I would be happy forever with 9.5 … I wish they gave that centering a 9… It must be that they value that centering… And also… I must have needed 10 on the corners to get that 1 point bump. CORNERS WHERE PRISTINE… WhY YOU MURDERDZ MY BAE BGS!! I WILL NOT GIVE UP … I WILL HAUnT YOu BGS… FOREVER!! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I WILL SPEND 100K IF I HAVE TO OVER TIME, and im from cereal about this…\
it says here in the thread:
The following is bad science, as I am not considering all possible scenarios, but it is still a good approximation: According to BGS, only 6 of every 1000 cards slabbed are BGS 10s. A BGS 10 requires three 10 subgrades. With the surface grade representing one of four subgrades, that means that only 15 out of every 10000 have 10s on centering, corners, and edges. I’m guessing that no more than one out of every ten of those has an 8.5 surface grade, so a BGS 9.5 with three 10 subgrades is on the order of a one-in-ten thousand card. If you submit 20 cards a month, you would get one card like this every forty years.
