Prototoise has reached the promise land.
Would Blastoise be the only Holo on a MTG back? Can imagine a Charizord being out there in someone’s desk.
I swear to god some dude out there would pay 7 figures for a protozard. Charizard collectors aren’t human
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The controversy surrounding this card is fascinating. Even after the sale people are still stewing about it, and I just don’t get it.
In all the time I have been on eFour I have heard it many time; “If you don’t like the price then don’t buy it,” or, “The market has determined the card is worth X. Stop complaining about prices!”
So, why are people so bothered by the selling price for this card? What makes it different from a comparable, but different, card, such as a trophy?
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I think the dude that owns one who came here and talked it up like a used car salesman every post he made tarnished how everyone here looks at the card lol.
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I get that. A card of this caliber can do all the talking itself. But really, not liking the seller has nothing to do with the value of the card.
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Not liking the seller has lead to many not liking the card 
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I really wish this wasn’t the case. I get that abrasiveness can leave a bad impression but there were plenty of other people who believed it to be real from the start, who didn’t know the owner and didn’t have any stake in the authenticity of the card. Game researchers/historians just wanted to see it get the recognition it deserved but it was difficult to have a serious discussion about it because people all across social media would chime in with dismissive comments like “Oh boy, here we go with this fake card again”.
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Yada yada yada The market doesn’t care about your feelings towards the seller or the card yada yada yada
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the history of the card is objective.
if someone I hated said 2+2=4, I would be silly to disagree that 2+2=4
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A shift of tone since the verification.
That’s all it’s been about, verifying the legitimacy of it. The information was exceptionally scarce 4 years ago and the owners at the time didn’t really give much information.
Hence why it was almost universally put in the fake basket.
I’m happy to be wrong about it though, because professionals have weighed in and we have the public information about it.
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Hm, I think the tone shifted exponentially more once the Heritage auction was done. Money brings just as much legitimacy as the CGC authentification.
If a member in the original thread from years ago would have admitted to “prefer the Protostoise over a 1st Ed Base Zard” he/she would have been absolutely destroyed and ostracized.
I’m completely impartial to anyone’s preferences. It’s just my observation throughout the hobby that acceptance of cards increases along with their sold prices, even if they used to get ridiculed initially.
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Incredible read, not a fan of the card myself but things like this only help build on the hobby so I’m all for it!
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Honesty I could of seen some big hitters on here buying it for alot of money if it weren’t for the brashness of the seller. Now everyone is keeping clear.
That says a lot about the maturity of the community.
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I also think there a huge asthetic appreciation on this forum. The majority of users on this forum appear to collect firstly for appreciating the art, and the investment aspect is a secondary after thought.
That being said although the card is ugly as hell it is WoTC history and worth something to the right person.
Im personally more interested in the Japanese side of things as that’s where it all started.
Ultimately all Pokémon cards are pieces of small cardboard and ink and cost less than a cent to produce each in mass production. Things are worth more than Pokémon cards, you’re born, you live and you die. The end.
Outrageous! WotC clearly would have been more successful if they had use that layout and Comic Sans.
Can’t we all just get along? 
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Can you imagine if Comic Sans was put on the OG western Pokémon cards? My god. Maybe it would of gone the way of beanie babies.
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What a read! Genuinely very interesting - you’ve convinced me it’s legit. @papafrankgod,
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Very interesting