Pack Weights Database (post your info here)

[traineramy]

@bulbusaurboye

These two loose packs were purchased and opened together, but I’m assuming they were not from the same box:

1st ed Team Rocket 21.05g - holo Dark Charizard
1st ed Team Rocket 20.81g - holo Dark Blastoise

These four packs were purchased unweighed and opened together. They all came from the same booster box:

1st ed Team Rocket 20.92g - non-holo Dark Dragonite
1st ed Team Rocket 20.94g - holo Here Comes Team Rocket
1st ed Team Rocket 21.01g- non-holo Dark Charizard
1st ed Team Rocket 21.02g- non-holo Dark Alakazam

Two zard, a blastoise and a dragonite out of 5 packs. Sheesh

[bulbusaurboye]

@traineramy

@bulbusaurboye

These two loose packs were purchased and opened together, but I’m assuming they were not from the same box:

1st ed Team Rocket 21.05g - holo Dark Charizard
1st ed Team Rocket 20.81g - holo Dark Blastoise

These four packs were purchased unweighed and opened together. They all came from the same booster box:

1st ed Team Rocket 20.92g - non-holo Dark Dragonite
1st ed Team Rocket 20.94g - holo Here Comes Team Rocket
1st ed Team Rocket 21.01g- non-holo Dark Charizard
1st ed Team Rocket 21.02g- non-holo Dark Alakazam

Two zard, a blastoise and a dragonite out of 5 packs. Sheesh

If it makes you feel any better I don’t think any of them are going to get 10s.

[enigma]

@crypto

I see that you have sets listed out to Boundaries Crossed. Any idea of these can be weighed successfully?

I’m pretty confident they can. Packs can be weighed up until BreakPoint, because that was the set they started using different code cards to combat scales. Still, up until Rebel Clash you could find specific in-between weights that almost always had a holo or ultra. The difference between light vs. heavy code card weight was smaller than the difference between non-holo and full art cards, but there were no guarantees of a pull at any weight.

For BW Base to XY Breakthrough (bar exceptions like Legendary Treasures or Generations), the heaviest packs would most likely have a full art, since they are a bit heavier than your typical holo. I myself had done this several times, but never recorded the weights. Also it should be noted that for HGSS sets, some ultra rares were found in the reverse slot (I can’t remember if this happened with primes or legends, but I know it happened with the SL subset in Call of Legends).

[candle]

EX power keepers pack weighed 16.94g and I cracked a regular holo (Raichu) and a reverse holo rare (Kabutops).

someone on another thread said they’d opened one that was heavier (17.3 or so) and pulled a regular rare and a reverse holo energy. Those energies are likely the heaviest cards in the set so they might make an otherwise light pack heavy all on their own.

[zorloth]

@candle

EX power keepers pack weighed 16.94g and I cracked a regular holo (Raichu) and a reverse holo rare (Kabutops).

someone on another thread said they’d opened one that was heavier (17.3 or so) and pulled a regular rare and a reverse holo energy. Those energies are likely the heaviest cards in the set so they might make an otherwise light pack heavy all on their own.

Interesting data point – thank you. And solid pulls; congrats!

someone on another thread said they’d opened one that was heavier (17.3 or so) and pulled a regular rare and a reverse holo energy. Those energies are likely the heaviest cards in the set so they might make an otherwise light pack heavy all on their own.

Maybe, but we don’t have enough info to conclude that. There are lots of EX sets where pack weights can be wonky like that. For example, 17.45g Holon Phantoms packs are typically light, but 17g is typically heavy. My theory is that print runs have minute weight differences as a result of card stock/ink adjustments.

[candle]

Got another one: EX Legend Maker booster weighed 17.13g - contained a non-holo rare (Omastar) and a reverse holo rare (Machamp)

[teejeevee]

Hello! I’m new here, I knw the forum already but wasn’t member. I have a list with boosterpack weights, noted myself, is it ok if I post it here? (I also weighed to SM and further packs, just to make sure they aren’t weighable.

[wisewailmer]

added some plasma series weights

[wisewailmer]

@teejeevee

Hello! I’m new here, I knw the forum already but wasn’t member. I have a list with boosterpack weights, noted myself, is it ok if I post it here? (I also weighed to SM and further packs, just to make sure they aren’t weighable.

hello, yes we keep the sheet editable by only a few people so that nobody goes in and trolls the data. if you want, you can send the data to myself, or any of the members from page 1 of the post (I believe they have edit access) and we will add it

[zorloth]

Is the weight data on the sheet for Ruby Sapphire accurate? I thought that Lapras ex pack was ~17.4, @wisewailmer ? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Also, IDK why the sheet is showing the 17.34g Sandstorm pack as light? I pulled a holo out of my 17.34g pack, unless that’s a separate 17.34g and mine isn’t on the sheet (and I’m pretty sure it was on the sheet). Confused.

[wisewailmer]

@zorloth

Is the weight data on the sheet for Ruby Sapphire accurate? I thought that Lapras ex pack was ~17.4, @wisewailmer ? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Also, IDK why the sheet is showing the 17.34g Sandstorm pack as light? I pulled a holo out of my 17.34g pack, unless that’s a separate 17.34g and mine isn’t on the sheet (and I’m pretty sure it was on the sheet). Confused.

checking my old pics I got the lapras from a pack weighing 17.53-17.55g
I haven’t changed the sandstorm ones around though, not sure how many people have access to the sheet as of now

[zorloth]

@wisewailmer

@zorloth

Is the weight data on the sheet for Ruby Sapphire accurate? I thought that Lapras ex pack was ~17.4, @wisewailmer ? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Also, IDK why the sheet is showing the 17.34g Sandstorm pack as light? I pulled a holo out of my 17.34g pack, unless that’s a separate 17.34g and mine isn’t on the sheet (and I’m pretty sure it was on the sheet). Confused.

checking my old pics I got the lapras from a pack weighing 17.53-17.55g
I haven’t changed the sandstorm ones around though, not sure how many people have access to the sheet as of now

Ok, so the sheet needs that 17.53g weight – the lowest weight it has for Ruby Sapphire is 17.6g. I’ll add it. I’ll also add my Sandstorm; I’ll just assume that there was a separate 17.34g light pack that someone added.

[wisewailmer]

I just checked and it looks like there are only 4 of us who have edit access

[kingboo64]

@wisewailmer

I just checked and it looks like there are only 4 of us who have edit access

Yep, zorloth, you, me, and another one, though I haven’t added anything in months

[ultimateunveils]

Have some numbers to add. These are all packs I have personally opened. List in no particular order.

1. HGSS Triumphant 18.80 holo, also opened one with same weight and no holo

2. Dragons exalted 19.65 holo, 20.02 holo

3. Base XY 19.98 holo, 19.99 holos. 20.00 full art

4. Plasma blast 19.76 holo, 19.73 holo

5. Platinum arceus 18.44 arceus reverse & regular holo, 18.35 light, 18.44 light (blister pack).

6. Legendary treasure 19.86 light, 19.66 full art & holo

7. Ex Team Magma Team Aqua 17.40 holo

8. Secret Wonders (curse this set) 19.03 light, 19.10 light

9. Platinum base 18.61 lv x pull

10. HGSS Undaunted 18.87 no holo but prime, 18.68 no holo no prime

11. HGSS Unleashed 18.53 Legend pull (hit/holo technically)

12. Mysterious Treasures 18.79 holo, 18.77 no holo, 18.80 holo, 19.00 no holo

13. DP Stormfront 18.46 light, 18.31 light, 18.63 LV X (hit/holo)

[wisewailmer]

@ultimateunveils

Have some numbers to add. These are all packs I have personally opened. List in no particular order.

1. HGSS Triumphant 18.80 holo, also opened one with same weight and no holo

2. Dragons exalted 19.65 holo, 20.02 holo

3. Base XY 19.98 holo, 19.99 holos. 20.00 full art

4. Plasma blast 19.76 holo, 19.73 holo

5. Platinum arceus 18.44 arceus reverse & regular holo, 18.35 light, 18.44 light (blister pack).

6. Legendary treasure 19.86 light, 19.66 full art & holo

7. Ex Team Magma Team Aqua 17.40 holo

8. Secret Wonders (curse this set) 19.03 light, 19.10 light

9. Platinum base 18.61 lv x pull

10. HGSS Undaunted 18.87 no holo but prime, 18.68 no holo no prime

11. HGSS Unleashed 18.53 Legend pull (hit/holo technically)

12. Mysterious Treasures 18.79 holo, 18.77 no holo, 18.80 holo, 19.00 no holo

13. DP Stormfront 18.46 light, 18.31 light, 18.63 LV X (hit/holo)

Updated! Thank you for the data lots of sets we didnt have info on yet

[candle]

@zorloth

Maybe, but we don’t have enough info to conclude that. There are lots of EX sets where pack weights can be wonky like that. For example, 17.45g Holon Phantoms packs are typically light, but 17g is typically heavy. My theory is that print runs have minute weight differences as a result of card stock/ink adjustments.

I have been tracking pack weights from Duel masters and I think you callout about print runs affecting pack weights is important. I have had heavy packs in one batch/box weigh less than light packs in another. I know for a fact they were differing print runs due to the order of the cards in packs differing (rares in front in some, in back for others). the packs look/feel the same and are from the same set but the print runs cause weights to vary by as much as a full gram.
Often when buying weighed pokemon packs I wonder if there aren’t multiple print runs for a single set and whether I can trust a “heavy” weight

Also thanks for your help in maintaining this guide!

[zorloth]

@candle

@zorloth

I have been tracking pack weights from Duel masters and I think you callout about print runs affecting pack weights is important. I have had heavy packs in one batch/box weigh less than light packs in another. I know for a fact they were differing print runs due to the order of the cards in packs differing (rares in front in some, in back for others). the packs look/feel the same and are from the same set but the print runs cause weights to vary by as much as a full gram.
Often when buying weighed pokemon packs I wonder if there aren’t multiple print runs for a single set and whether I can trust a “heavy” weight

Also thanks for your help in maintaining this guide!

Duel Masters? Haven’t heard that in a while lol.

100% agree – never assume a loose ‘heavy’ pack will actually contain a holo. Not too long ago, I bought a 17.4g EX Dragon pack off eBay. Based on a few data points, I believed it would contain a holo. Ended up not. Lesson learned haha. I hope that with enough data points we may eventually be able to determine whether or not a pack is from a heavier/lighter print run. There are some middling weights for certain sets where we can already (probably) safely assume that they are light packs from a heavier print run.

And no problem at all! wisewailmer has done the bulk of the work, but I do enjoy helping in whatever way I can.

EDIT: one thing I meant to ask: was it possible for you to distinguish between cards from the two print runs? Did cards from one print run feel/look different at all from cards from the other?

[candle]

@zorloth

EDIT: one thing I meant to ask: was it possible for you to distinguish between cards from the two print runs? Did cards from one print run feel/look different at all from cards from the other?

Not that I could tell, but I will likely open a few more and report back. I have another large batch of DM-01 packs on the way and will get some more data then

[candle]

Also! I cracked another EX powerkeepers booster today. Weighed 17.00 grams and contained a non-holo rare (Dusclops) and a half-art reverse holo (Vulpix). It weighed slightly more than the last EXPK booster I reported in this thread but that one contained a holo. Possible heavier print run? @zorloth,