unfortunately for people like Logan, i am not sure if there will be a chase in the long run since pokemon is dirt cheap and he can probably reach most of his collection goals in a year, unless he’s going after snaps, trophies and the super rare cards. he’s got resources to do a lot. so enjoy it while he is putting pokemon in the limelight.
Well, if someone is going to claim that 1st Edition Base is the rarest box (which Logan Paul did), then the natural answer to that is the EX Series haha.
And do yourself the favor of not watching it. Logan Paul’s enthusiasm is admirable, but the other hosts are insufferable. There’s very little substance in what was discussed (or at least of the 5 minutes I could stomach lol).
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not a chance lol.
I watched the video. Gut reaction - it made me feel old. BUT I entered this hobby knowing very well I was not in the sweet spot age group for it. I didn’t grow up with it, it’s not nostalgic for me etc. I have to close that train of thought by thanking people here on the forum who have made me feel welcome despite that.
My overall reaction is that this is great! By the time I reached age 10 or so (1988) most of the things that I liked as a kid were starting to become distinctly “geeky”. Legos, collecting comic books, playing dungeons and dragons, and later JRPGs and MtG. You could either publicly stick with these things and be a geek or kind of shove them in the closet. I didn’t have the guts to do the former, so I more or less shoved these things under the rug and even developed different groups of friends I would pursue these activities with (not legos, but the others). Only sports were cool.
I may be wrong, but it feels like today it’s much more mainstream to pursue “geeky” hobbies. If this guy Logan Paul helps that trend or keeps it going, I think it’s fantastic. It’s a net positive for Pokemon, even if it draws in some more transient participants, speculators, etc. Some of those people will stay and it will help the hobby grow.
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@hyruleguardian ,
It’s extremely feasible that there are over 1000. All it takes is 2/3 early collectors/investors that have bought in the early 2000s. If there aren’t a small number of people that are holding the bulk of the stock then yes I’d agree there’s probably not over 1000. Just look at someone like Gary, all it would take is for there to be several of him that focused on sealed product instead of graded cards and boom you’ve got your 1000.
dreamin’
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I would say it’s generally pointless to speculate about the exact number of sealed boxes remaining, but…
If there are still 1,000 1st edition Base boxes still sealed I will eat a sock.
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Why now? Is it purely because of Gary V’s hyping? Why didn’t all these new collectors(I say that very very very very loosely) coming into the hobby now. Smells like a bunch of sheep!
I guess it is more content for people who like to consume this kind of “content” and shines a light onto the hobby even more.
Pokemon is absolutely killing it right now! Over the coming months we have soooo many new sets Champions path, astonishing voltecker, vivid voltage, Hidden fates reprint, shiny v, vivid voltage pre release build a deck promos…awesome time to be a collector with all of these juicy sets coming out. Lots a nice cards to pick up for sure
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I think you’re underestimating how easy it would’ve been for one person to acquire 100+ boxes of 1st Edition Base. It was a limited product; it wasn’t just something you could order in large quantities from a distributor. It wouldn’t be remotely surprising to me if there were individuals with hundreds of Base Unlimited boxes. But accumulating hundreds of 1st Edition Base boxes would’ve been difficult to do without inflating the price for yourself.
This is the reality of all relatively, but not extremely, limited items. Like, if I wanted to buy hundreds of copies of a scarce set card (i.e., a gold star) that is currently $100. I would buy the, say, 10 available copies. And then more will get listed, but this time at $200. So if I wanted to build a significant position in the card (say owning 500+ copies), I would end up just paying stupidly high amounts for all copies of the card beyond the ones currently available. The same thing would happen if someone wanted to, in 2001 or whenever, corner the market for Base 1st Edition boxes. It was never something that was available in high enough quantities for one to build a large position in it without simultaneously inflating the price beyond what is reasonable. This is why buyouts are difficult to pull off. Someone with 100+ Base 1st Edition boxes would have to have accumulated them over a long period of time.
Last time I counted 1st ed base set boxes I know still exist, there were over 20 boxes. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were more than 50 still available.
@zorloth,
Do we have any idea of who has the “most”? At least someone we can point to that we are aware of and say it’s common knowledge that “x person has 10 boxes”?
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AFAIK, Gary has at least a sealed case (6 boxes). Besides Gary, I’m not aware of anyone with more than a few boxes. This is all that I’m aware of – maybe someone else here who’s been around longer and knows more people could give you better info.
Plenty boxes exist, but that doesn’t mean plenty would ever hit the market.
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Pleasantly surprised by the video and his concise retorts to obnoxious friends.
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Multiple people own 10+ boxes. Now I don’t know anyone with 50+ boxes, or at least they’re smart enough to not share the info.
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there are still a few hundred sealed Alpha MtG starter decks. That was a much scarcer set than Pokemon Base 1st edition. There’s no way to make an accurate estimation based on that, but it’s something to use as a benchmark. I would hypothesize that there would be “at least a few hundred” pokemon base set 1st boxes out there, but probably more than that.
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yeah, buyouts is definitely a thing to watch for in the near future if there are people with money who come into the hobby and are only after profit. it doesn’t take much right now in Pokemon to jack prices up because of the limited supply.
Literally the only reason I didn’t just leave the whole video running. He’s certainly not stupid, and given the fact his life is filled with many various projects & activities, I was kind of surprised by the knowledge he did show. What pissed me off was the efforts to dampen the sentiments he was making about PTCG by the 2 morons either side of him, so had to switch off.
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Are there really still a few hundred Alpha starters? I believe you – that’s just shocking to know. Because 300 Alpha starters represents 600 rares and the entire Alpha print run was 127.6k rares. And as I’m sure you know, most of the print run was in the form of packs and Alpha rares appear pretty frequently in Beta starters. So there probably weren’t more than a few thousand Alpha starters even printed, so 300 still existing is crazy.
If there are 300 Alpha starters still, maybe there are 1000+ 1st Edition Base boxes out there lol.
e4 is like a puddle in the pokemon collectibles market. let’s not use e4 as a way to guesstimate quantity of products and cards out there in the vast ocean.
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