Logan Paul On Pokemon ... Shows Box

[zorloth]

@yz2428

@zorloth

AFAIK, Gary has at least a sealed case (6 boxes). Besides Gary, I’m not aware of anyone with more than a few boxes. This is all that I’m aware of – maybe someone else here who’s been around longer and knows more people could give you better info.

e4 is like a puddle in the pokemon collectibles market. let’s not use e4 as a way to guesstimate quantity of products and cards out there in the vast ocean.

I wasn’t – I was only answering the question aimed at me lol.

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@yz2428,

Nah there’s 1007 exactly

[jonandek]

@zorloth

@jonandek

there are still a few hundred sealed Alpha MtG starter decks. That was a much scarcer set than Pokemon Base 1st edition. There’s no way to make an accurate estimation based on that, but it’s something to use as a benchmark. I would hypothesize that there would be “at least a few hundred” pokemon base set 1st boxes out there, but probably more than that.

Are there really still a few hundred Alpha starters? I believe you – that’s just shocking to know. Because 300 Alpha starters represents 600 rares and the entire Alpha print run was 127.6k rares. And as I’m sure you know, most of the print run was in the form of packs and Alpha rares appear pretty frequently in Beta starters. So there probably weren’t more than a few thousand Alpha starters even printed, so 300 still existing is crazy.

If there are 300 Alpha starters still, maybe there are 1000+ 1st Edition Base boxes out there lol.

It’s an estimate shared by the most plugged in collectors. Of which I no longer am but it’s been the running estimate. I’ve been walked through the logic before and it makes sense to me. I re-confirmed it’s still the shared view before making my post. So yeah I think it’s a fair assumption

[luckydoo]

So if my math is right in order to break even each pack would be 6k 545 dollars a card

[tartrate]

So the light packs need to pray for some starters in PSA10 condition shot to maybe break even. Heavy packs would be money losses for PSA9s, besides the big 3. This will be exciting to watch.

[dbmoney10]

@tartrate

So the light packs need to pray for some starters in PSA10 condition shot to maybe break even. Heavy packs would be money losses for PSA9s, besides the big 3. This will be exciting to watch.

That’s how it always is, opening boxes and the packs inside is very -EV.

If it was profitable to open the packs, the value of the sealed product will correct itself

I couldn’t live with myself if I soent $6-7k in a pack to let it be opened up by Logan and possibly handled poorly. I hope Lee opens all the packs

[pikazardcollector]

Hope he handles the cards well and without gloves

[yellowgameboycolor]

Damnnnn Gary at it again. I’m excited to see the box break and I wish I could even afford a pack in there. But this is amazing that it’s going to Charity and he gets to have the excitement of opening a fresh box. I used to hate Logan Paul for the dumb shit he would do but that was a couple years ago, he seems at least a bit more mature than before.

[jakester18]

So he bought the box for $200k, is going to sell the packs inside and donate the funds to Leonhart’s charity? If so, that’s great.

It also sounds like a great way to do a tax write-off, by gaining more from his sales of the packs, especially with the uncertainty of tax laws heading into 2021.

[coelacanth]

I had not seen a video of this person before this, but from the video his motives seem sincere and his affection for Pokemon genuine. This makes me optimistic for the box opening he says is happening next month.

[pokepackcollector]

Honeymoon phase. Let’s see how he feels about the hobby when it’s in a low again or if he gets sick of it after a few years and moves on to something else. I think collecting from a what you love point is way more important than just jumping right to the top of the mountain with a 1st ed box. Can’t imagine how after that anything would keep his interest in the hobby peeked. Hope I’m wrong, but i still think this is just a flavor of the month thing for a majority of these guys right now.

[frostyalpaca]

@pokepackcollector

Honeymoon phase. Let’s see how he feels about the hobby when it’s in a low again or if he gets sick of it after a few years and moves on to something else. I think collecting from a what you love point is way more important than just jumping right to the top of the mountain with a 1st ed box. Can’t imagine how after that anything would keep his interest in the hobby peeked. Hope I’m wrong, but i still think this is just a flavor of the month thing for a majority of these guys right now.

Going to have to disagree on this. I think he is genuinely interested and the man has a LOT of money. If you grew up with base set and had unlimited funds buying a 1st Ed Box might be the peak of your nostalgia boner and make total sense to be one of the first things you want to go for.

[EnlightenedBulbasaur]

@pokepackcollector

Honeymoon phase. Let’s see how he feels about the hobby when it’s in a low again or if he gets sick of it after a few years and moves on to something else. I think collecting from a what you love point is way more important than just jumping right to the top of the mountain with a 1st ed box. Can’t imagine how after that anything would keep his interest in the hobby peeked. Hope I’m wrong, but i still think this is just a flavor of the month thing for a majority of these guys right now.

My first purchase when I got back into the hobby in 2009 was a PSA 10 1st edition Base Set Charizard.

Still here lol

[zorloth]

@frostyalpaca

@pokepackcollector

Honeymoon phase. Let’s see how he feels about the hobby when it’s in a low again or if he gets sick of it after a few years and moves on to something else. I think collecting from a what you love point is way more important than just jumping right to the top of the mountain with a 1st ed box. Can’t imagine how after that anything would keep his interest in the hobby peeked. Hope I’m wrong, but i still think this is just a flavor of the month thing for a majority of these guys right now.

Going to have to disagree on this. I think he is genuinely interested and the man has a LOT of money. If you grew up with base set and had unlimited funds buying a 1st Ed Box might be the peak of your nostalgia boner and make total sense to be one of the first things you want to go for.

Yeah, what is he supposed to start with – collecting a binder set of 1st Edition Jungle? lol

For someone with millions of dollars in disposable funds, buying and opening 1st Edition Base box is a pretty great way to start off, IMO. I can think of far worse ways to spend that money in this hobby. But I do see pokepackcollector’s point – it’s going to be tough to collect anything else after this. Imagine collecting 1st Edition Jungle/Fossil after collecting 1st Edition Base – it would feel way too easy and lame. One thing he could do is work his way up through the sets only completing the sets through opening booster boxes. Now that would be a bit more of a challenge, and definitely more fun (it’s what I’d do if I had effectively infinite funds like he does).

[sanzonw]

That Blastoise pull on video just cemented his addiction PKMN to the moon!!

[teraz]

@pokepackcollector

Honeymoon phase. Let’s see how he feels about the hobby when it’s in a low again or if he gets sick of it after a few years and moves on to something else. I think collecting from a what you love point is way more important than just jumping right to the top of the mountain with a 1st ed box. Can’t imagine how after that anything would keep his interest in the hobby peeked. Hope I’m wrong, but i still think this is just a flavor of the month thing for a majority of these guys right now.

If you watched any of the video you’ll see him say multiple times he’s not been this excited about something in a long time, played the games through is whole childhood, and you can just see the genuine excitement he has. That nostalgia doesn’t just disappear as we all know. The only thing that has caused me to have a lull in interest in the hobby over the last few years has been lack of expendable income at certain times. This guy has no lack of expendable income. I can easily see him going to go all out from base to EX and more over a long period of time.

[zorloth]

@teraz

@pokepackcollector

Honeymoon phase. Let’s see how he feels about the hobby when it’s in a low again or if he gets sick of it after a few years and moves on to something else. I think collecting from a what you love point is way more important than just jumping right to the top of the mountain with a 1st ed box. Can’t imagine how after that anything would keep his interest in the hobby peeked. Hope I’m wrong, but i still think this is just a flavor of the month thing for a majority of these guys right now.

If you watched any of the video you’ll see him say multiple times he’s not been this excited about something in a long time, played the games through is whole childhood, and you can just see the genuine excitement he has. That nostalgia doesn’t just disappear as we all know. The only thing that has caused me to have a lull in interest in the hobby over the last few years has been lack of expendable income at certain times. This guy has no lack of expendable income. I can easily see him going to go all out from base to EX and more over a long period of time.

Wow; I just realized that he was only born in 1995. So he’s more in the EX Series generation than the WotC generation. I hope he just sticks with early WotC lol. The prices are high enough on the e-Series and EX Series as it is…

[yz2428]

@zorloth

@yz2428

e4 is like a puddle in the pokemon collectibles market. let’s not use e4 as a way to guesstimate quantity of products and cards out there in the vast ocean.

I wasn’t – I was only answering the question aimed at me lol.

sorry, wasn’t aimed at you specifically. i was using yours as the context of my post. hahahaha.

[yz2428]

@EnlightenedBulbasaur

@pokepackcollector

Honeymoon phase. Let’s see how he feels about the hobby when it’s in a low again or if he gets sick of it after a few years and moves on to something else. I think collecting from a what you love point is way more important than just jumping right to the top of the mountain with a 1st ed box. Can’t imagine how after that anything would keep his interest in the hobby peeked. Hope I’m wrong, but i still think this is just a flavor of the month thing for a majority of these guys right now.

My first purchase when I got back into the hobby in 2009 was a PSA 10 1st edition Base Set Charizard.

Still here lol

my first psa purchase was a base set unlimited psa 9 charizard. i don’t think i even knew about 1st edition or shadowless when i came back to the hobby in 2016…

[way2slowbro]

Do not like the guy, but we shouldn’t be snobbish about new collectors entering the hobby and hyper analysing their intentions.