How clear does a Listing need to be?

Hi guys. I recently purchased an eBay listing for a 450 card pokemon lot. I bid up to 81 bucks, not not a crazy amount, but I’m wondering what I will get.

The description and title was very simple, stating 450 mint cards with no specific cards mentioned. The pictures however showed base set charizard and other base set holo cards, supposedly mint. The word random was never used not any card mentioned by name.

Question: If I do not get the cards “pictured” I can easily claim I did not receive the item described correct? I figured it was worth a shot since I figured worse case I could file a claim and get my money back. Best case scenario, I have a mint zard at a discount.

Yes, you can claim that, especially if the seller doesn’t make it clear in the description.

From what you are saying, it seems that the listing was incredibly vague and potentially misleading if it turns out that Base Set Charizard is not in the lot.

If I was to place a wager I would guess that you will not be getting the charizard in photo #5. It’s a toss up really though and hard to say.

All the other photos are poor quality and seem to be of the actual cards you are getting. The charizard feels like something ripped from another listing and plopped into this for whatever reason. But I could be wrong and they could just know it is a more valuable card so they took a bit more effort with it or scanned it. Clearly a very new and inexperienced seller though. Using the word “new” to describe raw cards of any kind is a big no-no. You could easily and rightfully open a claim if you so choose if the charizard is lacking.

Definitely a low risk moderate reward buy here. Good luck and be sure to let us know how you make out.

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You can file a claim on eBay with just about any transaction and they will side with you.

A better question is: why are you wasting your time with these types of listings? A basic rule to remember: all non-specific or random lots are scams. The juicy, rare cards advertised on the face of the listing will almost never be given out as a part of the lot and it’s likely that the seller doesn’t even own those cards.

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Looking at the listing linked, I think you’ll get those cards pictured. The listing really comes off as a “You get what you see.” I think if anything, maybe they won’t be necessarily “mint”. Looking at the Charizard, there seems to be quite a bit of silvering or slight chipping at the bottom, maybe I’m being picky. It just makes me wonder what the back side will look like. I’m really curious to know what you get too! Post some pictures for us when you get it! Good luck!

Little surprised you didn’t message the seller, even after paying. Just ask, “is the Charizard in pic 5 included?”

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I honestly don’t even waste my time with these kinds of ebay listings. Majority of the time they’re a scam, and I don’t know if it’s true but I read somewhere that if you try to get too many refunds on ebay (even if you’re not at fault) ebay might not let you get a refund in the future since some people take advantage of the 100% money back guarantee that ebay offers. I try to reserve my refunds for when I legitimately feel shafted or misled by a listing.

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I don’t bid on these types of listings but a lot of smart sellers do. This means, like anything else, there’s a trick to it.

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this is a really oversimplified, and in some ways just basically wrong post. this listing is not a “random” lot in that nothing in it indicates it is. when something is a lottery, yes obviously it is a scam, but those are generally clearly labeled for what they are.

this appears to be a sale of a collection of cards. Not only do you expect to get everything pictured when a collection of cards is up for sale, but you are also gambling on the chance of finding more in the random assortment.

As someone who buys a good amount of collections from places like goodwill online these are not only legitimate in the sense that you get what you can see in the photos, but you can also find a ton more that is not pictured. the trick is being educated about what you are buying, the era it is from, your chances of finding other items of value, etc.

the biggest risk buying this type of collection is “staging” where they put the items with the most value out front, and the rest is bulk. people bid hoping there are more items of quality in the collection but get burnt on the rest.

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Goodwill is basically a lottery itself. Back when I used to buy lots, I can’t tell you how many times I made purchases that didn’t come as described or had generic photos from other listings or labeled the cards as ‘mint’ when they were really just damaged. Random or nonspecific ‘lots’ are all ‘slot machine’ listings with very very long odds. We can chew the fat all day about what techniques are better suited to playing the system or how legitimate some lots are over others, but my overall point still stands. Lots are almost always a complete waste of time.

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Yeah the point here is the generic title + generic photos + generic description + 3 feedback = you’re probably gunna have a bad time.

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Low risk, high reward is all I’m going for here. If it’s a bust, then I’ll open a claim and get my money back. Just wanted to make sure I was in the right.

So the seller has been communicating with me and seems like an incredibly nice guy. He said he is a very new seller and did not realize how clear he needed to be and is very worried of being dropped a bad review early in his account. He understands that I expected a Charizard to be included and said he will mail one to me free of charge that he has or offer a full return. He wants me to let him know what I would like to do after I receive the lot and see what it came with.

It arrived today, but I wont be able to pick it up until tomorrow, so stay tuned for what came inside. Regardless, I’m either getting a return or a Charizard as compensation it seems, so lets see what happens. I wonder if the condition is actually mint as well…I am doubtful, but maybe this is a boom buy.

While nice of him to throw one in now, the fact he’s clearly worried about a negative feedback means he knows exactly what he was doing by including a picture of a card he had no intention of including…

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Yuuuuuup, that was a BUST!

The cards were absolute GARBAGE. NONE of them were mint and they were worth less than 10 bucks total. He gave 3 damaged holos for 81 bucks. What a joke. Return requested immediately…

In other news I do have a Charizard lot coming in, so hopefully that goes better. With a different seller of course!

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