Evolutions box is ~120 while its PSA 10 Charizard is $1500?

I have a somewhat similar story as you do @furashu. Quarantine happened and I was at home at my computer, bored, sitting on way too many zoom calls. So, I started getting into basketball cards. Started flipping those pretty aggressively. I was getting mail constantly. But as much as I enjoyed watching basketball, I just… didn’t connect to the cards. I was in a private community about cards and some people started discussing Pokemon, but I hadn’t played in 20 years and I just wasn’t sure I’d connect. Then I saw this one guy who I followed for a different reason start making YouTube videos about Pokemon cards. And they were great videos. And then I just… fell down the rabbit hole. I became instantly hooked. And that was it. It’s only been a month, but man, I’m hooked. As for how I found E4… I posted on Instagram that I was looking to buy cards, a guy messaged me, and he said he has found other buyers/sellers on this forum. So, voila.

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Thought I would update what 8 months or so of grading has changed with PSA 10’s

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Wow… PSA is so behind, it’s artificially suppressing the supply. Have to imagine there are still a TON of cards sitting at PSA.

I was being sarcastic. I remember when Pokémon go came out was when everyone and their moms got back into Pokémon. Then pratte made a video emphasizing that statement was a FALLACY. I got a good chuckle out of it so here we are.

FALLACY.

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Anyone else notice the sheer amount of scam listings recently from users with 0 feedback selling boxes around $500?

It blows my mind that every. single. one. of them sells.

There are that many people out there willing to see it out?

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Same thing with WOTC boxes. I think these are the tracking number then customer serivce spoofing scammers.

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Someone mentioned to me that this particular Evolutions charizard has now hit over 9,000 in the pops. It sounded like a lot which made me curious to see how how it compares to the total pops of most sets. Needless to say it really puts it into perspective. The Evolutions pop is on steroids. I haven’t updated the data since my last chart on the 10th. The dotted reference line is set to 9,000. The scale is logarithmic and is set to start at 200.
People are always quick to mention that only 199 of those 9,077 charizards are PSA 10’s, but that’s not a particularly low total number when compared to most charizard pops.

It is worth mentioning that the base set Unlimited charizard is 19,418 total pop. Base Unlimited has 436 PSA 10’s.
1st Edition Charizard has 2,933 total pop. 121 PSA 10 and 655 PSA 9.
Anyway, again, just something to mull over.

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Rainbow, your quality/post value is probably the highest on this forum. Kudos.

You definitely make the internet a better place.

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@rainbowgx , imagine what the pop will be like a year from now! Probably significantly over double what it currently is? The incentive to send in Evolutions has only become so strong over the past 8-9 months. So I have to imagine that most of the supply is still in the backlog.

Also, it’s kind of funny that nearly as many Evolutions Charizards have been graded as the entirety of Neo Discovery, a set which was released nearly 20 years ago lol.

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Yeah, i would love to see some stats on print run numbers on modern…
I think the vintage market is just heating up overall. Give new collectors another 12-36 months.

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So Evolutions Charizard is still at about 2.19% of cards being sent, actually being graded 10’s. Comparing to base at 2.24% and 1st Edition at 4.12%. I’m sure we’ll see a lot more 10’s in the next 6-18+ months for sure, but we’ll also see waaay more 7,8,9’s as well. I’d say it’s still a pretty difficult card to grade all things considered

I think it’s safe to assume that the print run numbers would astound us.

Case in point: 9000 Evolutions Charizard holos have been graded after 4.5 years. And 19,000 Base Unlimited Charizards have been graded after 22 years. This is despite the fact that Evolutions Charizard holo is more difficult to pull than Charizard was in the original Base Set. So those 9000 Evolutions Charizards may very well represent more product opened than the 19,000 Base Set Charizards. All of this plus Evolutions Charizards are being graded at a faster rate (see: pokemonprice.com population numbers).

The other way to look at it is Base is 22 years old and grading wasn’t even around when it was released.

Evolutions is at half that after 5 years old with only 9,000 graded- despite being printed and opened during the peak in popularity of pokemon, grading, and collecting, and flipping.

No way to tell if it peaked early and plateaued because of current hype or if it is exponentially growing.

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Looks like three cases just sold:
Feb 24 - $6,100
Feb 23 -$6,595 Best Offer on PWCC
Feb 23 - 6,299 Best Offer
Feb 22 - 6,350 Best offer

Individual Boxes have had prices ranging from $610-$1,250, with more leaning over $950 than not. Still some sub $900 boxes here and there.

There were two boxes sold by the same ebay account for $610 and $620, so some folks got a deal. The bids look legit and the account looks legit.

23 Boxes sold in the last 24 hours for a total of $25,296 or 1060 an average of each. Including a case that sold for $7,354.

www.ebay.com/itm/184685851097?vv&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5335849815&toolid=10034&customid=eBay-US_go-item_-3cva3204kp9s—1614537578.CL.0.1…pokemon.evolutions.box…-.hnr-184685851097_wcc

I think only 3 boxes sold for under $1,000

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Take a look from sold psa10 evolutions Pikachus. I have a difficult times to accept those semi modern card prices compared to old wotc cards… They are not even difficult to pull. Weird things going on.

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Guess it’s time I bought out all 27 boxes sitting under 1k on TCGPlayer then huh

If you’re referring to the reverse holo… it technically is harder to pull any individual reverse holo in this set than any of the other cards (including the full arts). Also - it can be somewhat-difficult to grade with centering/whitening issues. Some say it scratches easily too, but I haven’t noticed that being too much of an issue.

Are you saying you’d rather purchase a PSA 10 1st Edition Neo holo than a reverse holo common from Evolutions? Weirdo…

I can some what understand the reverse holo, but Flying Pikachu, surfing pikachu and even normal non holo pikachu…