Wtf is happening? Strangest Ebay Occurrence I've ever had.

So I sold the exact card in this listing to a buyer located in the Netherlands a few weeks ago, and I mean the exact card, I took the scans of it myself:
www.ebay.com/itm/184300877717?ul_noapp=true
I shipped it via the GSP with the tracking number as follows:
UPAAB000000429911568
So it was delivered to Erlanger KY per usual, and I presumed that the card was on it’s way to the Netherlands when I got a message from the buyer, asking why the EXACT same card (cert numbers and case styles match up) was listed for sale by a seller in Ohio:
www.ebay.com/itm/Pokemon-Card-Mismagius-LV-33-Stormfront-7-100-PSA-graded-10-Gem-Mint/114515225526?hash=item1aa9a3abb6:g:SLgAAOSww6lfrZSM
Does anyone here have any idea how something like this could happen? My only guess is that the new seller somehow stole it from the mail system, or the buyer is running some extremely elaborate scam… The buyer has opened a refund case now, and obviously I can’t blame him, I’m just very confused.

I think the biggest concern is why the tracking has stopped. As this is something I sold arriving the same date, I’d contact the person selling it asking how they obtained the card framed as more of a collector wanting to know the history of the card maybe will get some free answers in attempting to resolve the issue with ebay & GSP.

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Crazy, someone’s playing a prank on you.

It looks like the card was probably stolen from the package when it was going through Cincinnati since that is where he is located. If you haven’t already called eBay to explain the situation, then make sure you do so when you can. Don’t respond to the refund until you talk to someone at eBay. Look up eBay’s global shipping program on their site to see if you are covered by eBay here since the package made it to their shipping center and was sent from them. Also, I think the buyer can’t leave negative or neutral feedback in this situation, but am not positive.

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Weird situation for sure.

Here’s the GSP tracking link: parcelsapp.com/en/tracking/UPAAB000000429911568

So it shows that it arrived at the GSP center. I think that means you’re covered, right? Which means you’ll need to go through eBay customer support to get paid out. I’m not familiar with GSP, so I’m not sure what additional steps that may entail.

I think it’s understandable the buyer wants a refund. No shipping update from GSP and someone else has the card they bought listed for sale, lol. So I wouldn’t fight that.

If you refund the buyer and get compensated by eBay, you’ll have to decide if you want to go down the rabbit hole to try and figure out the truth (I would :stuck_out_tongue:).

The only thing that could help you with that I think is asking the new seller how they obtained the card. If they’re a shady lot, you probably won’t get any good info. But maybe they’ll give up some more info about what happened - it can’t hurt to ask them.

edit: I think @eyesofmadara made a good connection about the possibility it was stolen while going through Cincinnati, which is where the new seller is located. It’d be interesting if the new seller says they purchased it from someone on offerup/mercari for cheap - I tried looking around for it on those sites but didn’t find anything.

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I have another theory. I bet the card was stolen and resold. Look at the sellers page. He has other cards for sale. Perhaps the postal employee/gsp employee that stole the card sold it to the seller via craiglist or facebook or whatever.

I would reach out to the seller and ask where he got the card. Can’t hurt at this point.

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I’ve actually seen this exact thing happen before with the same pictures from both being reputable sellers. Not sure what the scam would be? Maybe someone clicked on sell a similar item and forgot to change the picture?

But it’s not the same picture? OP’s is a scan, the other guys listing is a photo. He clearly has or has had the card in his possession.

Looks like he’s taken it down now though.

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I noticed that all of the PSA cards that the other guy had listed had certs matching cards sold within the last few weeks/month. I reached out to a few previous sellers of those cards, and sure enough they were all international sales that “went missing”. The seller (Monster-Games) claims that he bought the cards from a local guy who brought them into his card shop, so it seems likely that someone is stealing cards from the Global Shipping Program warehouse and reselling them. I’ll have to refund the buyer, who’s understandably disappointed, but I should be able to get a refund from Ebay. Remember folks; Insure your packages!

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Global Shipping provides full insurance and seller protection. So if it gets lost during shipping or damaged or lost, you and the seller should be entirely covered. However, the more nefarious issue here is that this Ohio seller is selling multiple stolen cards. That is unlikely to be a coincidence. That’s something eBay should be investigating for potential criminal activity with their shipping service.

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I doubt that the Ohio eBay seller is the one who stole the cards. It would be VERY bold to steal items shipped with eBay GSP (which is visible on the packaging, so the thief would know) and then list them for sale on eBay. More likely is the thief sold several stolen cards to the person who’s now selling them.

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