Plus can’t see if there’s any tiny printlines. To big a risk to spend $1100 to maybe get a 10 but probably a 9
Just throwing this out there, the vast majority of BGS 9.5 pokemon cards would NOT crossover to a PSA 10. Even quad 9.5 sub grade BGS cards are far from a guaranteed PSA 10. That is why almost all BGS 9.5s sell for less than a PSA 10. Also to the person that claims that that Lugia 9.5 would easily crossover to a PSA 10, why not buy it and make an easy $800+? Why not buy a bunch of BGS 9.5s with the same subgrades and make some serious cash? Just thought I’d clear things up in regards to BGS 9.5 crossovers to PSA 10 so that people reading this don’t get misinformed.
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Let me ask you this, what has a stronger grade? A PSA 10 vs BGS 10? PSA 10s are not as consistent as BGS 10s. As long as the BGS has 3 9.5s it has a chance at a PSA 10, plenty of offcentered PSA cards out there.
It seems that way probably because there are 10000 Pokemon PSA 10s to every BGS 10, the outliers will show up more frequently. You can almost guarantee every ‘big’ 9.5 card has had an excursion to PSA at least once in its lifetime, if the title contains BGS 9.5 PSA 10?! It is 100% guaranteed that card has had an uneventful vacation to PSA.
For BGS 10, how confident would you be cracking it out and resubmitting hoping to get BGS 10 again? Would you crack out a black label 10 and be confident it would regrade to a black label? My answer to both of these questions is resoundingly no, it’s more a lottery or luck of the draw and to me that is more inconsistent than PSA barring outliers.
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Which card has a stronger grade between a BGS 10 and a PSA 10? A BGS 10 obvisouly, I don’t think anyone can argue with that. This thread has nothing to do with BGS 10’s though, the BGS 10 is a completely different animal. For English pokemon cards it’s almost considered a unicorn. There are so few that they command a massive premium, especially for a fan favorite card.
By the same token though a PSA 10 > BGS 9.5 in the majority of cases. Of course some BGS 9.5s can cross-grade to a PSA 10 but it’s much fewer than poeple think and it’s impossible to tell by looking at a single picture of the front and back of the card.
Also this:
As long as the BGS has 3 9.5s it has a chance at a PSA 10, plenty of offcentered PSA cards out there.
is not true at all.
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Well conversely you could say that most quad++ 9.5s are stronger than most psa 10s? Othererwise those psa 10s would be bgs 10 pristines? So there is a point where 9.5s are easy psa 10s.
9.5 bgs is gem mint, 10 psa is gem mint.
Yeah 2 10 sub grades. The card in question is a 9 and 3 9.5s
Im aware i was referring to the claim that bgs 9.5s dont translate to psa 10s. Didnt mention the card in question
Who said they didn’t?
Its late and im tired but I believe @mistercrunch was saying that 3 9.5s and a 9 dont have a chance at psa 10 which is possibly untrue and he also said that the chance of a bgs 9.5 crossing as a 10 is low which i would disagree with as gem mint is gem mint. Especially as the sub grades go up
In this day and age the owner would have cracked or sent it to psa if he thought it had a shot at 10. But reality is it’s not gonna get a 10
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Wouldn’t this one have a better shot since it has a 10 with the 9? Or does the 9 just kill it?
How many people in this thread have actually crossed a non-trivial amount of cards from BGS to PSA?
I’m not sure why so much confidence is put into the subgrades either. PSA can’t even consistently grade on a single 10 point scale. Why would you believe there is consistency in four 19 point scales?
I think one or two people may have already mentioned but the conservative assumption should be that every BGS Pokemon card was probably a PSA 9 at some point.
The 9 seems to indicate there’s scratching or blemish on the card (a 9.5 would mean that either no blemish or very, very light scratching) - generally PSA catches this, so imo it kills it. To confirm, I would ask for more pictures/thoughts on the foil to see if it’s scratched and then ask to see the card at different angles to catch any potential blemishes
what better way to start a day than with a good bgs vs psa debate!
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I don’t even know why that became a thing. The original discussion was how there was almost no chance in hell this BGS 9.5 on eBay with “potential PSA 10” in the title would crossgrade.
But the free bumps keep my Lugia dream alive so get at it boos.
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Curious if you have found one and how much you paid?
@pokeuniverse, Posts in threads with a last post of over two months ago are against the rules.