WTB 1st Edition Jungle Snorlax Holo PSA 9

[acebren]

@zorkzork69

@acebren

Truth hurts.

If you want sugar coated you’re in the wrong place.

Feel free to counter my argument if you disagree with what I’ve posted.

I already have. You refuse to acknowledge it and instead resort to ad hominem. You’re not edgy. You’re just being a prick.

Direct me to your response? from what I can see all you’ve done is gotten upset and started name calling

[pfm]

Damn lots of tough love in here

[zorkzork69]

@acebren

@zorkzork69

I already have. You refuse to acknowledge it and instead resort to ad hominem. You’re not edgy. You’re just being a prick.

Direct me to your response? from what I can see all you’ve done is gotten upset and started name calling

Actually, I apologize. I edited it in after I posted. But here,

"Yeah man. A guy on eBay with <70 feedback will be believed and get max value out of their card because they make a title that says “strong 9” and the 15 pictures they take of the card in all angles as opposed to a bigger guy with 5000+ seller feedback who everyone already knows and trusts with 2 photos. Surely that’s how it works.

That’s why the other PSA 9 is still up despite being 60 bucks cheaper than the auction. Makes total sense. You’re truly a visionary."

It’s easy for a big name to sell a big card on the merit of their name. It’s not easy for smaller collectors to sell a card for the same value without the newest PSA certifications on them.

[fresco]

@acebren

@fresco

That’s great. The problem is the attitude of several members when trying to voice their opinion, as Zork stated, there’s a certain “elitisim” in the way some users here post their “facts”.

Truth hurts.

If you want sugar coated you’re in the wrong place.

Feel free to counter my argument if you disagree with what I’ve posted.

I’m not arguing about the argument, i think the whole “cert” thing is indeed moronic. Is about how certain people reply, that’s it.

[raichuforyou]

Anybody gonna sell this guy the card???

[zorkzork69]

@raichuforyou

Anybody gonna sell this guy the card???

Someone messaged me and I’m dealing with them right now. Thanks for the concern!

[budget]

I have a 3xx cert, only regraded twice.

[madden12ut]

It’s pretty funny to think that this thread would only be one page and have a lot less commotion if OP just said, “offering $300 for PSA 9 jungle snorlax, up to $400 for a strong copy” instead of differentiating prices based on certs lol

[newcollector]

@madden12ut

It’s pretty funny to think that this thread would only be one page and have a lot less commotion if OP just said, “offering $300 for PSA 9 jungle snorlax, up to $400 for a strong copy” instead of differentiating prices based on certs lol

That’s OP’s whole point. He is stating that he believes the market will punish him for having an older cert when it comes time to resell his card, regardless of the strength of the card/grade.

[acebren]

@madden12ut

It’s pretty funny to think that this thread would only be one page and have a lot less commotion if OP just said, “offering $300 for PSA 9 jungle snorlax, up to $400 for a strong copy” instead of differentiating prices based on certs lol

It’s almost like paying more or less for a certain bracket of certification numbers is an absurd concept

[azulryu]

Me and my raw cards reading this thread like:

[nevyn]

@budget

I have a 3xx cert, only regraded twice.

Good one! We all know 3xx certs are only a myth, just like unicorns and taxes

[zorkzork69]

@newcollector

@madden12ut

It’s pretty funny to think that this thread would only be one page and have a lot less commotion if OP just said, “offering $300 for PSA 9 jungle snorlax, up to $400 for a strong copy” instead of differentiating prices based on certs lol

That’s OP’s whole point. He is stating that he believes the market will punish him for having an older cert when it comes time to resell his card, regardless of the strength of the card/grade.

Thank you for taking everything I’ve stated and summing it up into a single concise sentence. I’m terrible at that.

Yes. My whole point is that when it comes time to sell, since I’m not a big collector, the market will punish me.

[ccrntrade]

@zorkzork69

@newcollector

That’s OP’s whole point. He is stating that he believes the market will punish him for having an older cert when it comes time to resell his card, regardless of the strength of the card/grade.

Thank you for taking everything I’ve stated and summing it up into a single concise sentence. I’m terrible at that.

Yes. My whole point is that when it comes time to sell, since I’m not a big collector, the market will punish me.

Well we are here to inform you that the market will not punish you! All you have to do is buy the card not the cert! If there is no back picture, ask for a picture. If it doesn’t look like it deserves that grade, then don’t buy the card.

[acebren]

@zorkzork69

@newcollector

That’s OP’s whole point. He is stating that he believes the market will punish him for having an older cert when it comes time to resell his card, regardless of the strength of the card/grade.

Thank you for taking everything I’ve stated and summing it up into a single concise sentence. I’m terrible at that.

Yes. My whole point is that when it comes time to sell, since I’m not a big collector, the market will punish me.

Well, you’re in luck! the whole 4XXX are superior thing currently going on is just a meme, there’s no evidence to back this up and serious collectors know how silly it sounds!

I’ll always advocate for buying the card (condition) and not the grade (or cert), as that’s what collectors value!

[KingPokemon]

@zorkzork69

@newcollector

That’s OP’s whole point. He is stating that he believes the market will punish him for having an older cert when it comes time to resell his card, regardless of the strength of the card/grade.

Thank you for taking everything I’ve stated and summing it up into a single concise sentence. I’m terrible at that.

Yes. My whole point is that when it comes time to sell, since I’m not a big collector, the market will punish me.

You won’t have to worry about that. 99% of graded card collectors know to buy the card, not the cert number.

[randox]

I think at best one can argue 4 certs are marginally better on average than 2 certs. Does that mean you should be paying a 25% premium for a 4 cert? That is your choice but I think if everyone did that, I would just buy all the 2 cert 10s and regrade them to 4 certs and make a lot of $$$ for little work. I have over 100 PSA 10 cards and would say the 4 series cards are slightly cleaner on average but not by anywhere close to what that 25% premium would imply. There are also people like Gary who have far more PSA 10 slabs and he would tell you that 2 and 4 certs are broadly similar.

[zorkzork69]

Thank you everyone for helping to clarify for me! I really appreciate it!

[zorkzork69]

@randox

I think at best one can argue 4 certs are marginally better on average than 2 certs. Does that mean you should be paying a 25% premium for a 4 cert? That is your choice but I think if everyone did that, I would just buy all the 2 cert 10s and regrade them to 4 certs and make a lot of $$$ for little work. I have over 100 PSA 10 cards and would say the 4 series cards are slightly cleaner on average but not by anywhere close to what that 25% premium would imply. There are also people like Gary who have far more PSA 10 slabs and he would tell you that 2 and 4 certs are broadly similar.

This is what I’m here for. Is that “marginally better on average” outweighing my limited influence on the market? Will the former grow even more powerful in enough time after I make my purchase? I have to assume yes to both. It makes logical sense really.

Paying 25% more now means nothing in raw numbers and is well worth taking that insurance to hedge the issue I’ve been talking about in this thread.

I believe if you did crack all your 2 cert PSA 10s and regraded them to 4s, you may not like what happens. Many of them may go to 9s. And then what? I’ve seen quite a few YouTubers mad at PSA and resend cards just to prove their standards have been raised. 9’s going to 8’s, 10s to 8s. 10s to 9s. Etc.

[joakimstore]

What a thread lmao. Grading is officially a social construct. Labels are arbitrary.

Hope you get the card you want!