Which had the shorter print run?

Which would be considered more rare in terms of shorter print run? Jungle No Symbol or Shadowless base?

Im going to guess No Symbol. I feel like that was a shorter “printing mistake” than shadowless was.

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From what I have seen, the theory is 1/8 of Jungle unlimited is No Symbol.

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I was curious to see if their was data/info on these accidental print runs. The closest thing Ive found was an interview with leonhart and an ex wotc employee a couple years ago where they touch on the subject briefly. Thanks for the input

The median pop is 965 for No Symbol and 3452 for Shadowless holos.

But keep in mind Shadowless probably has a high % submitted from the total supply, has more lower grades, probably has more resubs.

They probably have similar total supply, or at the very least it’s not obvious if one is much higher than the other.

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I believe that No symbol Jungle holos are a lot more rare than 1/8 of regular unlimited holos. Unlimited jungle is one of the most abundant vintage sets, and the error print run was probably regional specific to the US for a limited time. For instance, I never saw any No Symbol holos growing up in Europe, and everyone had jungle cards, but just unlimited not 1st edition.

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Are collectors equally aware of shadowless base and jungle no symbol? The pop disparity could be explained by the fact that people might not know about jungle no symbol

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The PSA 10 POP´s for Jungle No Symbol are a lot lower. So, I would guess Jungle No Symbol is a lot more rare and also a lot less known because it never really got any attention.

I bought this Venomoth some years ago. It is (or was) a PSA 10 POP 27, which is common for these Holo´s.

Slightly off-topic, I really like the No Symbol set because it makes these cards feel like an extention of the Base Set cards.

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That’s my point. The low pop could be explained by
a.) no symbol jungle could be rare
b.) or it could be more common but people holding the cards haven’t realized that they can grade the cards for profit, or some other mediating variable we’re not aware of.

I agree. And it’s another cool little error set, like no rarity.

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Yeah, could be the case. But I doubt it, as there are also less 9´s, 8´s ect. It´s hard to say something about the general population, but it´s safe to say that the graded population is significantly lower for No Symbol. I don´t think this will change because most cards that have not been graded already will likely be ´played´.

I would LOVE for this to be the case but sadly I think everything is so optimised/documented now this is unlikely to be the case - everything feels like it’s looked up online immediately, everyone is stonkmaxxing, even the charity shops around England do it now! With that in mind, it seems to me more likely due to the lower population from the offset?

It’s not always the case though, only need to look at what happened with Rule of Rose PS2 game to see that.

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