Goddamn, you guys are brutal.
I have learnt that pokémon have to grow on me. Give them some time or try the games, movies where they played a role. Makes it much easier to like them.
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Brutal? Honestly I think everybody is quiet mild here.
Conflicted about a lot of the ultra beasts, but i’m certain on my feelings about how bad Guzzlord is.
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I sort of have the same feelings towards Scizor.
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Some of this comments are gems haha. I’m getting too much satisfaction from reading these. Thanks guys!
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GOD. I am shook.
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I happen to like the ultra beasts especially Guzzlord the shiny version is even better I just wish a few of them weren’t bug type. They seem to be weak against pretty much everything in battle in game 
Thanks man I appreciate this. It’s ultimately about first impression.
Truthfully whether from character design to a card, the latter is more open to literal change for reinterpretation eg the recent amazing as hell Bunnelby card, the former is a final design that can be traced from it’s premise origins to if it ever gets an extension ie Mega Ampharos/ Zard X highlighting their dragon references to finally tie loose ends. The mythology could be the same duality either reading between two books or sole looks of premise and making conclusion. I guess it’s about how much you require it’s how I see Gen 4. I appreciate it’s experimentation but ultimately was a travesty on the whole with an abundance of underworked shut.
Ken Sugimori has contributed less as a sole designer turned director ever since needing assistance to complete Gen 3’s dex (hence the Latis unoriginality broken from that Blaziken concept piece) so at this point there are illustrators who act as worshippers to the exact look of the Old Ones. My answer to the OP would be overall as a whole after Gen 3 since the concepts have always been there but the result in style has drastically shifted into a more rounded lazier, so-called minimallstic approach. I could look and name some but even then I could likely find something in favour. 
Gen 6 is strong overall.
The later revised opinion is the experience yours was perfectly with new light Primeape. After playing random doubles/ monotype the Simi’s when life orb, nasty plotted up oh boy. One of them I believe has the only card art made from someone outside Japan whom also designed Vaniluxxe and the Ultra Beasts. It’s funny how everyone knocks the poor icon of ice yet noone points a finger to Exeggcute. But yeah neat story, just not the same as the outcome so Celesteela probably tops it likely just for weight creeping Primal Groudon, the best of the best even after having reference from Princess Kaguya. Contrastly Pikazard both are best in dosages nowdays. All it takes is Gorochu to cross official bridge to be my favourite pokémon.
It’s tricky to unsee when you completely get it so if you’re a fan of something that suddenly drops a bombshell the next best thing to do is to work out why and what it is. It’s easy to recognise peoples ignorance to the final outcomes background and thats understandable but past that gets to a point of some absurd interpretations unexplained and man it’s been a ride!
Which pokémon did I help change light for you? Just wondering. I find changing heart to be one of the best feelings from the franchise. If this was 5 years ago it would be a different scenario.
80% of gen 5 tbh. Maybe Palpitoad, the creepy bugger. Looks like a mutated chicken nugget to me.
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Someone come get their aunt…
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There aren’t many Pokemon that I really dislike. I appreciate the Pokemon in all of the generations.
That being said (and this was kind of mentioned earlier), I don’t like how the final starter evolutions have become more and more humanoid as the generations have passed.
Take Incineroar, for example. Litten and Torracat (ESPECIALLY Torracat) were great designs. Then they had to make Incineroar a bipedal wrestling heel. Horrible. That’s also why I really don’t like the legendary genies. They just look weird.
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Nidorina… too ugly to appreciate haha 
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Jynx would like to speak to your manager
And she’s wondering why my 7 year old doesn’t have a lemonade stand license.
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The bipedal stance makes sense. Imagine they went more of the centaur/chimera route? Incineroar is turning Tekken’s best duo into pokémon. You don’t like humanoid based pokémon for the designs appearing humanoid to be weird?
Honestly these designs got so progressively bad after gen 1 that fans should be offended.
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When they begin as animals? Uh, yes. Why does Incineroar have to be based on a humanoid? Why couldn’t it have just been a more ferocious looking cat like the rest of its evolutionary line?
Pokemon like Mr. Mime, Jynx, etc. being humanoid is fine. That was their original basis. But going from a cat to a humanoid is where I get thrown off. Imagine if Growlithe or Vulpix became bipedal? Weird, right?
It can make sense to you but not make sense to someone else. That’s what an opinion is called.
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Just had to scroll through this entire thread to make sure was no hate on Wailord. I know he is just a literal enormous whale but that’s why I love him.
I think a lot of us see earlier gen designs through rose-tinted goggles, even though there are some pretty poor and lazy ones. For example I am really not a fan of the unowns.
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Wailord is bae.
Aside from the bee thing, the other Pokémon were rejected Beauty and the Beast characters. The castle originally backed up to a beach, but that was cut out in the final edit.
This thread is seriously educational on the depths of terrible pokes, and it’s awesome. I’m still recovering from Guzzlord.
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My god, how could we forget about the unowns. The most disappointing holo cards in the whole Neo era the bane of EX Unseen Forces. They don’t even come up as least favorite Pokemon because nobody thinks about them at all.
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