Undervalued Thread

[zorloth]

@markzkong

@zorloth

The difference between crystals and gold stars are pull rates. Crystals were much easier to pull than gold stars (Skyridge crystals, for instance, are only very slightly rarer than holos on a per-card basis). That said, crystals are amazing cards without question!

True but what I am saying is the scarcity for crystal is still on par with gold stars. There are three gold stars per set, pull rate is 1 out of 2 boxes so to get all three, you would need 6 boxes

Skyridge has 6 crystals, pull rate is about 1? per box and to get all six, you will need 6 boxes. See how it is the same overall?

It may seem like gold stars are harder to get, but there are less of them per set. If I only want crystal hooh or celebi, then it would take approx the same amount of boxes even if crystals have better pull rate.

I believe your pull rate numbers are incorrect. Crystals were typically 2 per box for Skyridge (not including reverse holos). This means each Crystal appears once every 3 boxes, on average. So, for instance, a Mudkip gold star is twice as difficult to pull as a Skyridge crystal Charizard.

[bk2021]

How simple things were back then.

If I was old and rich enough to buy booster boxes, I could’ve got those cards that seemed to be out of reach.

These days, you just might be able to get all the < $1 Vs in 6 boxes.

[KingPokemon]

CoroCoro promos especially ungraded loose (not still sealed with the book)

[thurco]

Pikachu Secret rare from Black and White set

Last sold $350 in PSA 10. Even if you go back to peak mania prices, it was going for under $500~

• Secret rare with a pull rate of 1/3 boxes (roughly)
• S Tier popularity pokemon.
• Scarce-ish era and the pop report has barely moved since 2018. Not many on the market under $100 raw.
• Comes from a box that is becoming more and more infrequently available for sale and is approaching $2k

(all of this also applies to the legend maker pikachu but its a bit more expensive)

[KabutopsMaster]

@eeveeteam

Glaceon Snowflake stamp from countdown calendar promo. It’s a $20-$30 card in damaged condition, $50-$75 in nice condition. Given it’s rarity and that most copies are damaged, I think it should be well over $100 in decent shape (33%-50%+ undervalued).

Going to laugh at this next one. How are flat V ultra rare cards less than $1? A booster pack MSRP is $4, you get not just a holo hit, but an “ULTRA RARE” as Pokémon calls it, and you only get 25% of the sealed pack value back. Seems strange to me. This is a knock at TPCI for calling garbage hits an “ultra rare.” I hope the gen 9 sets do something a little different than having non holo, holo, and flat V cards making up a very high % of the packs you open, and very few being hits desirable.

that countdown calendar glaceon was a pain in the ass to locate, especially being in australia.
i managed to get one in the end from canada, but it was the bane of my existence for a while there

[mcorey777]

Everything I own

[kpod]

Apparently Japanese eSeries are no longer undervalued, yowzers compared to the prices a few years back

[zork]

I don’t have any reasons other than A) they’ve been a pain in the ass to locate in mint condition and B) I adore the arts but – the 2013 Sylveon Collection Box Promo Cards for the B&W era (BW87 - BW94)

[eeveeteam]

@zork

I don’t have any reasons other than A) they’ve been a pain in the ass to locate in mint condition and B) I adore the arts but – the 2013 Sylveon Collection Box Promo Cards for the B&W era (BW87 - BW94)

Right before Covid this set was selling for about $20 in NM/LP condition. That’s about $2 per card, seemed like a bargain. During the hype peak, they were well over $100 for the set. They seem to be at an appropriate price now. There were tons of these boxes made and a lot of people had the set that didn’t collect Eeveelutions.

[zork]

@eeveeteam

Right before Covid this set was selling for about $20 in NM/LP condition. That’s about $2 per card, seemed like a bargain. During the hype peak, they were well over $100 for the set. They seem to be at an appropriate price now. There were tons of these boxes made and a lot of people had the set that didn’t collect Eeveelutions.

ty for bringing me back down to earth. these cards seem to have low pop on PSA but I always appreciate the free education. I guess I just assumed they were from a throwaway promo product during an unremarkable year for the TCG nearly a decade ago.

my eevee-colored glasses are usually on pretty tight though

edit: I also find the artist part of the card interesting since I’m not used to seeing “team” as opposed to a sole illustrator. any more info on that?

[Josh]

Feel like I’m taking those SMcrazypills

[KabutopsMaster]

@eeveeteam

@zork

I don’t have any reasons other than A) they’ve been a pain in the ass to locate in mint condition and B) I adore the arts but – the 2013 Sylveon Collection Box Promo Cards for the B&W era (BW87 - BW94)

Right before Covid this set was selling for about $20 in NM/LP condition. That’s about $2 per card, seemed like a bargain. During the hype peak, they were well over $100 for the set. They seem to be at an appropriate price now. There were tons of these boxes made and a lot of people had the set that didn’t collect Eeveelutions.

These are still advertised for over 100 for the set of 9

[dbmoney10]

First secret ever, beautiful Arita artwork, pikachu evolution, first edition WOTC PSA 10, fairly difficult to grade with not a huge pop

[ddk]

A lot of ex series regular holos seems undervalued to me. Many cards with an art quality similar to Skyridge with sub-100 total pops selling for under $100 for PSA 9 and under $500 for PSA 10 seems almost criminal.

With how much organic collectibility ex and gold star cards have, I’m surprised that demand hasn’t trickled down to the regular holos.

[teamrocketop]

@vic

JP exclusive decks like the VS Movie decks and Chikorita / Totodile intro deck.
Feel like there’s still a lot of ppl that don’t know about these. They also have good history like tying into a movie, featuring cards that showcase the pokemon in the settings of that movie. The sealed ones aren’t really all that easy to find either, but I remember seeing the jirachi wishmaker one go for less than 200 sealed. I think latios/latias decks are pretty well known though.

Non trading card sized items with good artwork (mostly jp pokecenter exclusive stuff) like postcards, art prints, sleeves and playmats etc.
it’s really good art you can’t find in the tcg thats not really showcased too often.
For the sleeves- there’s a lot of good trainer artwork that’s better than what we see in the TCG full arts.
At this point there’s so much good sleeve artwork i’m considering doing a sleeve only binder

Agreed, a lot of the playmats are also just works of art. Honestly not sure why these aren’t as “collectible” either. I have some that I like from the Final Fantasy TCG and the artwork is amazing. I don’t think it is about undervalued, but underappreciated.

[zorloth]

@ddk

A lot of ex series regular holos seems undervalued to me. Many cards with an art quality similar to Skyridge with sub-100 total pops selling for under $100 for PSA 9 and under $500 for PSA 10 seems almost criminal.

With how much organic collectibility ex and gold star cards have, I’m surprised that demand hasn’t trickled down to the regular holos.

Regular holos have increased quite a bit over the past couple years, in fairness. I started collecting the PSA 10 holos in late 2020 IIRC, and they were between one third and one half the price they are currently. I’m not sure that they’re currently undervalued. I actually think some of them are pretty overvalued right now. I’ve seen PSA 10 EX Dragon Salamence holo sell for nearly the same amount as PSA 10 EX Dragon Rayquaza ex, for instance, which feels pretty crazy to me.

The holos from the first three sets are amazing cards, though. No question about that. The significantly lower holo pull rates in RS/SS/DR coupled with the amazing art + their being first appearances makes them extremely appealing cards to me. Even if they’re not undervalued, they are absolutely underappreciated.

[Josh]

@dbmoney10

First secret ever, beautiful Arita artwork, pikachu evolution, first edition WOTC PSA 10, fairly difficult to grade with not a huge pop

Such great playground memories of that card! Left us all thinking it was some kind of rare error because of the card number. Back in the day when every single aspect of the cards mattered - the number, the illustrator, the HP, the rarity symbol, the bottom text etc.

[arcaneight]

I think theres a lot of gen 1 and gen 2 tcg adjacent items that are undervalued
-pokemon centric issues of becketts, scyre(sp?), things of this nature
-nintendo powers with promotional pokemon cards still with them
-pop series in general feels underpriced raw
-eon tickets

[livindavido]

Nintendo powers have been rising a bit recently, but still agree and think they are undervalued. Especially the Venusaur black star promo. I don’t do grading but there is not a PSA 10 in existence as far as I’m aware, and still copies around with the envelope still sealed inside for fair prices. For people who do grade (especially to sell) they seem quite good value.

[joer]

Definitely the jungle no symbol error cards. You can still get near mint copies of every card for very cheap! High grades cost a lot, but if you want to complete the set it’s not gonna be a big buy typically. I think it is very undervalued, especially as an early vintage card set!