Heard from 2 sources, who heard from multiple distributors that Ultra Prism is out of print.
I have no details to add to this… but I definitely want to hear what others have to say. My initial reaction: wtf…?
/discuss
Heard from 2 sources, who heard from multiple distributors that Ultra Prism is out of print.
I have no details to add to this… but I definitely want to hear what others have to say. My initial reaction: wtf…?
/discuss
Didn’t they say errata Cyrus was coming in future print?
From www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/errata-for-cyrus-prism-star-in-pokemon-tcg-sun-moon-ultra-prism/
January 24, 2018
Errata for Cyrus Prism Star in Pokémon TCG: Sun & Moon—Ultra Prism
This text change for the Supporter card Cyrus Prism Star will be effective immediately.
Due to an error in the card text for Cyrus (Sun & Moon—Ultra Prism, 120/156), the first part of this card will be changed. The original text for this Supporter card says:
You can’t play this card if you don’t have any or Pokémon in play.
Your opponent chooses 2 Benched Pokémon and shuffles the others, and all cards attached to them, into their deck.
The text will be changed to match the original intention of the card, which is that a player’s Active Pokémon must be a or Pokémon.
The new Cyrus text will say:
You can play this card only if your Active Pokémon is a or Pokémon.
Your opponent chooses 2 Benched Pokémon and shuffles the others, and all cards attached to them, into their deck.
Effective immediately, Cyrus will use this updated text instead of the original text. This will be reflected in the Pokémon TCG Errata document.
During the first week of evolutions distributors were “out of stock”. This was of course temporary.
I’m curious if they said, “out of stock” rather than “out of print”. I can’t imagine Pokemon would stop printing a main set with a new play mechanic.
From: ludkinscollectables.com/blog/ultra-prism-out-of-stock-after-1-week
This morning, February 6th, 2018, distributors for Pokemon product started corroborating Pokemon’s back-end announcement that Ulta Prism 36-count booster boxes are “sold out and there is no reprint scheduled at this time.”
While other skus are still available, booster boxes, the primary way collectors and players purchase large quantities of modern booster packs, are not. This is the quickest booster set to out-of-print we have seen in the modern era. At this time, it is unclear whether this will affect the inclusion of Ultra Prism in upcoming products, though it seems unlikely that it will. What is clear is that vendors who typically rely on booster boxes have a lot of strategic decision making in the days ahead.
Is this an attempt by Pokemon to curb oversaturation or a hiccup in output following one of the strongest waves of demand we’ve seen in the past several sets? What does this mean for the short-term value of competitive singles from the set? Will this be enough to get the continually-stacking collection boxes off of retail shelves if they include Ultra Prism packs?
I put my money on ultra prism not being out of print. But hey, if you think it is then it likely will be one of the scarcest recent releases and may have decent long term prospects. Go ahead any buy all you can at $84.99 because it does seem to be in fact sold out at distributors as of this afternoon.
I expect this to be the typical ~1.5-2 year print to demand timeframe like all the other sets.
Maybe they are not printing any more until the Cyrus reprint starts? Would production really be halted for one single card though? Either way, this is interesting. I’m always down for limited edition/limited releases of any sort as it helps the product gain additional value.
I’d rather see the packs and boxes be worth two to three times more than what they are worth than two to three times less, but that’s just me.
Thanks for sharing that information @pokesoup!
To be completely candid, I currently don’t trust the word of distributors. They will strategically phrase a scenario to fill their purchase orders. I am all for expanding business, the entrepreneurial spirit, etc. But the internal operations are hustling businesses.
Here is an example from my last contact with my distributor: “we only have 100 boxes of shining legends left in stock, how many would you like to purchase?” After asking about the future print they stated, “we think this is a one and done product”.
Finally after going back and fourth, they acknowledge the product is consistently available for purchase from Pokemon and is Not one and done. At best they aren’t doing their due diligence, at worst they are consciously misleading businesses. Therefore I don’t trust the untested word of a distributor in relation to product. Stating, “no plan for a reprint at this time” can imply many different outcomes. It will be interesting to see which outcome will actually occur.
Derium’s opinion via Twitter:
“Addressing the Ultra Prism “out of print”: I give it a 0% chance of being true. I think SM4 was such a dud, they lowers SM5’s print run (so wave 1 ran out faster), plus the Cyrus fix delayed the next print run.”
“The print company Pokemon uses is not the biggest company. And they don’t print only Pokemon cards. So I’m sure fixing even a single card put them back in the queue to get reprints.”
I personally think we can make a well educated guess as to what will happen.
A hype, a flurry for boxes, then a nice new wave of products from TPC
Maybe the first waves are ‘out of print’
Release date English: February 2, 2018
There is no way in hell a main set is going to be done and dusted so soon out of the gate!
I would love to be proven wrong, but I mean…
*inserts Brooklyn Nine nine Jake and Boyle “Come onnnn” meme*
We will see , the above is just my opinion, based on 0% fact, 100% Da Wae
I did a video on my personal page about it but here is what we know:
-The booster box SKU is out of print, not out of stock
-There is no scheduled reprint at this time
That’s it. That’s what we know. People aren’t specifying. Is the SET out of print? No. The product is. The SKU is. But they could introduce a new SKU.
Will there be a delay? Almost certainly.
But anyone saying the SKU isn’t out of print is wrong and anyone saying the set is definitely out of print is wrong.
And now we wait
I personally think it’s smart on their end if they limit booster box production and make you have to buy specialty products for packs. This both reduces overall pack supply and ensures that specialty product gets bought. We saw what happened during the holidays with all this specialty product in stores that doesn’t get sold put on a fire sale. This will make collectors happy by reducing supply and make Pokemon more money, since the per pack price his higher in specialty products.
As a person who only buys one booster box of each new set and doesn’t buy specialty product (just purchase the promo singles), this is a good thing for me at least.
For anyone holding onto the belief this set will not be reprinted, here are some facts to consider:
This scenario sounds like simply underestimating demand. Assuming Tcpi actually has a strategy is giving them way too much credit.
Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see the modern product become more valuable, but it’s more than likely something simple like a temporary halt in printing to correct the Cyrus prism star.
The only rationale I could see for this being true is that the Pokemon company seems pretty good at overcompensating, as Ultra Prism demonstrates, it has 35 full art or better cards in the set. That’s totally ridiculous, just a short while ago Roaring Skies had 14, before that Noble Victories had 6. (Looks in the mirror) “I feel sorry for you collectors…”
So I could see them finally realizing, after the joke that was Crimson Invasion, “We’ve gotta do something different!”, and so they overcompensate again, which is what they’re good at, and stop printing a week after release. But realistically, I would say that’s a very slim possibility, and besides, I don’t want availability to dry up yet, I haven’t pulled my full art Cynthia yet!
Hahahahahaaaaaa, is this an early April Fools joke?
Lol you have got to be just plain stupid if you think Pokemon will lose easy money on anything. That is their main priority…
Lets be real here… a new product that’s only been out for 2 days cannot be out of print. I say the delay is just the Cyrus correction. TPC will have a new SKU for the new batch that will be mass printed. If anything, TPC should be cutting off Break Through, Steam Siege and Evolutions.
However, this shows TPC is capable of doing 1st Edition again if they can sell out first print run in “2 street days.” The supply and demand is there and can bring life back into the hobby.
I hope they do this tactic for all sets to come. Do one print wave and halt it for a few weeks after first month so they do a good supply-demand analysis.
But in the end, as someone said already, it is just tcpi being in print queue due to the errata.
Gg for the one that bought 24,000 boxes and now dan sell them with 10-15% increased price.
Also very nice they pull the missprints Cyrus this fast, so the card can keep some of its value