The Giant Professional Grading Thread

To add to your point…

I submitted a card at Express that was up charged to Super Express. With the upcharge, I requested PSA to increase the insurance on the return shipment and they did. It was a scenario in which a PSA 9 would be Express but a PSA 10 would be Super Express. This increase in insurance also increased the cost of my return shipping.

It is certainly not PSA’s standard practice to automatically increase insurance values with upcharges.

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Wow, I assumed they did increase the insurance. It’s pretty bad they don’t since the tier doesn’t affect shipping price when the order is initially being created.

I wonder if they’d increase shipping insurance if they don’t spot what should have been an upcharge.

For everyone talking about how awful PSA has been recently, here’s a video from one of my favorite vintage baseball card dealers where they absolutely demolish him with zero explanation. Keep in mind this person has graded at least 20,000 cards with PSA. PSA definitely seems to want that crack and resubmit money from everyone.

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Interesting to see someone with similar results! I haven’t subbed as many cards as him but maybe 1000 cards total, and the last 3 subs i got I’ve gotten wrecked on grades (a cgc 10 for example came back a psa 3 LOL), and they are all back at psa now for a resub after i cracked them.

I don’t know whats going on but the late 8 into 9 series certs im chalking down as “undergraded/extremely strict” psa era.

I will be on the lookout for auctions and such for undergraded cards i can potentially make a play on

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My last three submissions have been absolutely terrible as well. Not sure what’s going on…

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My last sub was brutal, too. Random 7s scattered throughout the entire sub.

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I am “glad” to see It’s not only my submission that got wrecked hard.

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this is frustrating, and the main reason why i’m buying already-graded cards for my collection (unless i’m buying a binder copy that’s definitely staying in the binder.) the “bird in the hand” mantra rings even more true when this is our current grading situation with PSA

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On the bright side, there have been situations like this before at PSA (remember the 8.5 era?) and it usually always straightens itself out. I’m sure this is only temporary.

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I know there is more nuance but I can’t help but always feel like this in discussions like these:

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This was my my recent sub I got back only 15 cards of which they didn’t grade 2 :unamused:



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CGC’s astroturfing on E4 when they started grading cards basically sealed their fate

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Personally although obviously inconsistent grading sucks a ton, it wouldn’t be an argument against solely PSA. I’ve found pretty much all grading companies to have issues with consistency.

Idk, when all companies are inconsistent AF it becomes less of a debate point for company v company and more of just a criticism of grading in general imo. If that makes sense? :sweat_smile:

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Here are my non-Greninja cards from my recent submission. Counting the Greninja cards, I got 22/28 10s. So pretty great. I was super happy with the grades, just not with the time. I sent these all in for the Feb grading special.















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PSA being inconsistent with grading always has been a problem and always will be. We have a discussion about PSA above and this thread where no one disagreed with the premise: PSA 10 Centering Changes?

At a certain point there’s not much else to say when it comes to PSA returning higher than expected number of harsh submissions.

Whereas CGC is on a monthly schedule of intentionally courting controversy. And that’s kind of their goal to always stay in the zeitgeist/relevant. There’s a lot more to say when it comes to whether a card should be slabbed/how it should be labelled vs “I’m sorry about your PSA sub, hope they go back to normal soon”

I understand it’s a meme and I’m not even disagreeing with the premise, but I do think there are very good reasons why CGC topics generate more discussion. Like if PSA announced tomorrow that all 9s are now 9.5s and they created a new label that’s yellow instead of red and there’s a new 10+ grade you better bet that’s all we’d be talking about for the next 6 months. But they tend not to do that kind of stuff because PSA is much more of a conservative company.

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Thoughts on how this would grade? Pulled from a pack last week. The front surface is perfect, but the back has two small dots on the bottom corners and the left edge has slight fraying. I have a few graded e-series cards and the back looks closer to the 8s I own while the front is closer to the 10s. But frankly, I don’t have many cards with edge fraying so Idk how much that affects the grade.

My guess would be a 9 :slight_smile: . Grading it either way but hoping to get some thoughts.

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There also seems to be more whitening on the back. And the centering on the back is a bit off. I would say a solid 7-8. But I do mostly Japanese cards. Maybe they are more lenient with English cards.

I would expect a PSA 8, assuming that the holo surface is near-perfect.

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Just something i noticed and what ive seen several people talk about more than usual, psa 9xxx is currently very harsh.
Cgc is currently not harsh.
I see plays to be had crossing clean 9’s to cgc 10’s.

Any guesses on the grade of this beautiful mew?