The Giant Professional Grading Thread

We had some very minor discussion about this in this thread: www.elitefourum.com/t/psa-sent-cards-back-ungraded-after-an-entire-year/32925/1

Basically there’s a high probability the guy refused to pay upcharges

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Yah wow… Unbelievable. I cross posted since people were on the topic of up charges…

I do feel bad for those who submitted through him (pretty sure it was a middleman)

To be fair most hostage situations DO require negotiation =)

Will i get a message when grading is complete, og do I have to check every day as an idiot?

(PSA)

You’ll get a MSG. :+1:

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What are the parameters for a BGS 10 on Centering?


This gonna be a 9, 9.5 or 10?

Yes

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So my November order is more like an Easter present and not a Christmas present huh

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Hey everyone!

Since there have been a lot of discussions over the past year about the consistency of PSA grading, I thought I’d share my experience from the past few years since I started submitting my own cards for grading in 2017. During the past four years, I submitted a total of 986 cards over the span of four separate submissions. During the first three submissions, I predominantly only submitted cards that I thought were PSA 10/9 worthy. For my fourth and most recent submission, I decided to branch out to include cards in the PSA 6-8 range.

For the first 572 cards (first three submissions), there were a total of 8 cards that received a lower grade than I expected (at least +/- 2 point difference on the PSA grading scale than my predicted grade).

For the last 414 cards (fourth submission from July of last year), there were a total of:

69 cards graded higher than expected (My predicted range of experimental PSA 6-8 cards)
11 cards graded lower than expected (My predicted range of PSA 9-10 cards)

Albeit a small sample size, but accounting for inevitable human error, I would say PSA grading has been relatively consistent and have not “gotten stricter” over the years.

Hope this data set helps those who are concerned about the integrity of PSA grading.
cpbog1

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Got my 182 card order from august grades received. Honestly, fair grades to my expectations. . No upcharge shockingly.

Personal August 2020 order Came back while my 3 Ludkins orders before that are still in grading or ID reaearch. Hurts not gonna lie

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Its really annoying how much further behind the dealer subs are than public. Some dealer stuff from before covid still isnt even completed

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That’s what it is huh. Yeah, that definitely sucks. Kinda nuts

Very curious what the new turnaround will be for express considering they are likely to have a tidal wave of orders coming. Sent a 1 card express order July 1st which was logged into PSA July 2nd at 7:30 am. Considering they claim Express is complete, I figured it would be interesting to see how long it takes. Mine should be in the “early” batch of orders that arrived, so I’m curious if it will either be super fast or will follow the normal trend and still take 1-3 months.

Can’t speak for the whole community, but personally, I’m priced out of express (at least considering how I don’t intend to flip anything right now). The new price just makes me jaded - and I’m prob not alone. Turnaround times could be quicker than they were in January because of this (or at least economics implies that they should be).

Time to do binder sets for the next few years :rofl:

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Grading prices have never decreased

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In that case, maybe until all the backlog clears. I still have 200 cards at PSA, maybe end of the year or next year i may get them back.

This isn’t true. Specials are things they’ve used to decrease prices to lure more cards in over the years and they’ll continue down the line when it makes sense I’m sure. I don’t think demand just maintains the next 100 years. Prices just decreased from $300/card to $200/card as well. We will definitely see sub $50/card grading fees someday and maybe even sub $20/card. I kind of doubt we will ever see sub $10/card again but if we do I’m fairly confident it would be at least 5-10 years out.

Why people don’t get simple supply/demand I don’t understand. Grading companies are charging to demand while they can. If we get to a future time where they literally have no cards coming in and their backlog is fully taken care of you think they just sit on their hands and do nothing? No, they lower prices to entice cards in. Grading cards hasn’t become exceptionally more expensive in the past 18 months but it’s become exceptionally more in demand. They can profit at $5-$10/card we know that. But they aren’t going to charge it when they can’t keep up with the demand for it.

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I get supply and demand, just saying dont hold your breath. They are receiving more cards than ever with higher prices there is no incentive to lower yet. You can hope that demand drops and so does prices but its just hope at that point. No data suggesting it yet

My cards at PSA have been in research and ID for 3.5 months. Anyone have insight on how long it takes to progress from this point?

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