Yea I suppose it depends on how you look at it. Happy with the grade I got and the difference between the price of a 10 and a 9 in this particular card is much more than the $300 difference. I also think the $600 tier is probably less than I should have paid. But the moral of the story is their upcharge system is based on comparable sales in their database. However, they realize the market isn’t where it was a couple of months ago and that prices are in flux. It doesn’t hurt to call them and argue your case.
You can request your card be sent back ungraded.
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Just throwing it out there, this is not legal advice, but in most jurisdictions holding goods from another party to force them to pay their debt to you is considered illegal unless the goods are given as a collateral in writing.
So yes, this should likely be considered a hostage situation. Whether or not they can send your cards back ungraded is a moot point as you paid for the grading service.
I do not render a judgment on whether or not upcharges are correct. The issue is that holding cards until payment of upcharges should in principle not be legal. From a quick glance, it appears cards send in to PSA should not be considered as giving in writing as a collateral.
Again: not legal advice.
KM
You paid for the grading service which is what you received, it was graded - it’s not a secret that you may be upcharged depending on the final grade, it is well known and clearly written on their site. It is your choice if you do not want to proceed with getting your cards encapsulated due to the upcharges, the work has already been done to grade the card though, that is what the initial fee is for. I’m not sure where this rubbish ‘hostage situation’ theory is coming from?
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I was mainly being facetious. But when you pay PSA to grade your card I think we’re all under the impression we’ll receive a graded card in return. When PSA asks for more money via an upcharge they’re now holding your graded card “hostage” and the only way to get it is by paying them whatever they want.
Yes you can get your card back raw, but you’re now out the grading fee, and claiming you got the service you paid for and were expecting is disingenuous.
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Has anyone crossed over any BGS slabs to PSA recently? I have a couple that I’m debating to submit in the future with the following subgrades:
- Centering: 9.5, Corners: 9, Edges: 10, Surface: 10
- Quad 9.5s
I know some people say to crack and submit raw as opposed to crossing over but I’m not really sure I want to do that. Worst case scenario I submit for a minimum grade of 10 and the cards don’t get it.
Let me know, thanks!
Yes, they refuse to encapsulate the card until they are paid the correct amount - i’m not sure where all this entitlement comes from, that you don’t have to pay for what you owe?
‘IF ITEMS ARE SUBMITTED FOR SERVICES FOR WHICH THEY DO NOT QUALIFY, I AUTHORIZE PSA TO CORRECT THE ORDER AND CHARGE ANY ADDITIONAL AUTHENTICATION, GRADING, HANDLING AND SHIPPING FEES THAT MAY APPLY’
You must agree to the above when you submit a card to PSA, these are their clear terms, what’s confusing here?
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by the time your card is ready for grading it is likely that the teir you sent it at is no longer correct because prices have gone up dramatically in the 15+ months theyve been chilling at psa. Should stick to the value at the date received but tbh there is far worse problems to have than paying 20$ more than expected because your cards have jumped 400% in value
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I agree, the fee paid should be the final fee. There shouldn’t be variable extras imo. I know there are arguments for and against but this is my opinion. I understand sending a multi thousand £+ card as a bulk card marked at 200 or 499 isn’t right due to insurance purposes, playing the system etc. The fact the prices look at can be auctions, shill bid and what not it doesn’t reflect the true value of the cards in question. We can discuss this topic until we are dead XD So ill leave it there.
Just FYI, I’m not saying I agree with their upcharging policy, however by submitting your cards, you ARE agreeing to it, complaining after the fact that your cards are being held hostage is what I’m arguing against.
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@funmonkey54 , is it possible to get dates added to the PSA submission tracking for each stage? Not entirely important, just would be nice to see when it hits “XXX” stage since I only check every few weeks
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Charlie stepped down from Ludkins
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In Nat Turners recent interview he mentioned they are overly cautious with crossovers especially to 10s. If they don’t think 100% that it will cross to a psa 10 from looking inside the bgs holder they won’t crack it. It’s a liability issue as they would be on the hook if it didn’t end up getting the 10. I think this is why folks prefer to crack the cards. You are more likely to get the card crossed.
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Wow had no idea. TYFYS while you were with Ludkins, Charlie!
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Appreciate the response. Yeah I had a feeling after reading tons of different accounts that cracking and submitting is the best option overall. Also seems like the corners subgrade should be the highest.
Woah what? That seems like some pretty major news. How long ago was that? Also, any idea who’s running things over at Ludkins USA now?
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@shadowrex, thanks for the info, I don’t use social media so I missed this posting. Appreciate the share.
PSA Pokemon QGS
arrived 07/07/20
entered 09/01/20
grading
assembly 6/29/21
QA1 6/30/21
QA2 7/1
Grades 7/1
almost 1 year mark woohoo
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Not sure if this is the right place to post but what are people’s thoughts on this?
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