It’s safe to say they graded them but authenticated them would be a bit of a stretch.
Those have already been released? Kinda want one because of the Pikachu, and because I collected stamps in my youth. ![]()
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Quuador
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Wow, I remember seeing multiple for sale at the 4M yen mark just like 2 weeks ago! I wonder if those sold
Correct, wouldnt work.
prdisplays(Ebay) was and is my way to go, i would call him the Pokemon Protection Master lol
I dont know if Links are ok but here is what you searched for i guess:
www.ebay.de/itm/174743343650?hash=item28af83d222:g:aksAAOSwgWddb-sN
He is fantastic and try to help out as good as he can.
He dont sell cheap bs protection stuff, everything looks and feel quality when you get something from prdisplays.
Thanks for the link, I’ll message him tomorrow. Hopefully he is willing to ship to the USA.
rainbow:
This too was my initial reaction to them. The fronts seem really off in terms of design as they seem inconsistent and poorly done.
However the backs seem very consistent with designs we have seen.Someone could have designed them as bootlegs that way, choosing the movies as they think it would be more appealing to everyone but this would be speculation at best until more information can be found.
But we would really need more evidence before I would feel confident accepting them.
Another red flag: As far as I can tell, the card manufacturer itself is not listed on the backs of the cards.
I agree, I’m also initially suspicious of any different holo pattern I haven’t seen before from this time period. But these match up exactly with some of my other Zukan prisms. The copyright info on the back is also the same with the exception of the dates that have been pointed out.
japanime:
Another red flag: As far as I can tell, the card manufacturer itself is not listed on the backs of the cards.
I agree, I’m also initially suspicious of any different holo pattern I haven’t seen before from this time period. But these match up exactly with some of my other Zukan prisms. The copyright info on the back is also the same with the exception of the dates that have been pointed out.
I actually hope we are able to determine that they are indeed legit cards. It would be a nice discovery of something from the original era that seemingly has been overlooked
The investigation continues!
hootiehoo:
I agree, I’m also initially suspicious of any different holo pattern I haven’t seen before from this time period. But these match up exactly with some of my other Zukan prisms. The copyright info on the back is also the same with the exception of the dates that have been pointed out.
I actually hope we are able to determine that they are indeed legit cards. It would be a nice discovery of something from the original era that seemingly has been overlooked
The investigation continues!
Agreed! Me too me too. Hopefully there’s some other folks out there that can shed some more light on them.
Hey Everyone! Need some help identifying these cards. Ive always enjoyed non-TCG Japanese cards and have collected various Carddass/sealdass/Zukan ones over the years. But these cards I found caught my eye and appear to be completely legit but I have been unable to find any real info on them like how they were released and how large the set is. The guy I purchased them from in Australia believed they were inserted into Zukan boxes as promotions for the various movies in the early 2000s but I have been unable to verify that info. There’s been one set of 15 cards I can find on eBay that were graded by BGS but when you pull up the set registry no info comes up.
I’ve reached out to some very knowledgeable Japanese collectors on here as well as on Facebook and have come up short on anything about them. If anyone could shed some light on them I’d greatly appreciate it!
Although I can’t say whether they are legit or not, I can tell you that I bought the lugia movie card from a trustworthy seller on yahoo that I’ve bought from quite a bit. He had all kinds of movie merchandise for sale on his profile. Popcorn buckets, posters, keychains, and whatever else you could think of that you might get as a promo from going to see a movie which makes me think that these had to have been given out at some theaters in Japan. This is all anecdotal so don’t put much stock in it, but it would be my guess.
hootiehoo:
Hey Everyone! Need some help identifying these cards. Ive always enjoyed non-TCG Japanese cards and have collected various Carddass/sealdass/Zukan ones over the years. But these cards I found caught my eye and appear to be completely legit but I have been unable to find any real info on them like how they were released and how large the set is. The guy I purchased them from in Australia believed they were inserted into Zukan boxes as promotions for the various movies in the early 2000s but I have been unable to verify that info. There’s been one set of 15 cards I can find on eBay that were graded by BGS but when you pull up the set registry no info comes up.
I’ve reached out to some very knowledgeable Japanese collectors on here as well as on Facebook and have come up short on anything about them. If anyone could shed some light on them I’d greatly appreciate it!
Although I can’t say whether they are legit or not, I can tell you that I bought the lugia movie card from a trustworthy seller on yahoo that I’ve bought from quite a bit. He had all kinds of movie merchandise for sale on his profile. Popcorn buckets, posters, keychains, and whatever else you could think of that you might get as a promo from going to see a movie which makes me think that these had to have been given out at some theaters in Japan. This is all anecdotal so don’t put much stock in it, but it would be my guess.
Thanks for your input! Seems like a likely source of them. Hopefully we can get some first hand experience at some point from someone who remembers receiving them from the source.
hootiehoo:
Hey Everyone! Need some help identifying these cards. Ive always enjoyed non-TCG Japanese cards and have collected various Carddass/sealdass/Zukan ones over the years. But these cards I found caught my eye and appear to be completely legit but I have been unable to find any real info on them like how they were released and how large the set is. The guy I purchased them from in Australia believed they were inserted into Zukan boxes as promotions for the various movies in the early 2000s but I have been unable to verify that info. There’s been one set of 15 cards I can find on eBay that were graded by BGS but when you pull up the set registry no info comes up.
I’ve reached out to some very knowledgeable Japanese collectors on here as well as on Facebook and have come up short on anything about them. If anyone could shed some light on them I’d greatly appreciate it!
Although I can’t say whether they are legit or not, I can tell you that I bought the lugia movie card from a trustworthy seller on yahoo that I’ve bought from quite a bit. He had all kinds of movie merchandise for sale on his profile. Popcorn buckets, posters, keychains, and whatever else you could think of that you might get as a promo from going to see a movie which makes me think that these had to have been given out at some theaters in Japan. This is all anecdotal so don’t put much stock in it, but it would be my guess.
I don’t think the theaters were the source of these, even if they are legit. (Again, though, I could be wrong.)
Just a friendly update that the last bebe sold for $3500 (psa10) and the last cynthia (raw) just sold for 7500. New BUY prices for cynthia are 700,000 yen so that means they’ll prob start new raw sales prices above $8,000.
Pearls continue to climb leading to regional trophies like champs arena to boost to all time highs. Meanwhile, no action on the palace belt, but it will only be a matter of time.
Just a friendly update that the last bebe sold for $3500 (psa10) and the last cynthia (raw) just sold for 7500. New BUY prices for cynthia are 700,000 yen so that means they’ll prob start new raw sales prices above $8,000.
Pearls continue to climb leading to regional trophies like champs arena to boost to all time highs. Meanwhile, no action on the palace belt, but it will only be a matter of time.
does palace belt have any relation to palace book and that series?
chrispy:
Just a friendly update that the last bebe sold for $3500 (psa10) and the last cynthia (raw) just sold for 7500. New BUY prices for cynthia are 700,000 yen so that means they’ll prob start new raw sales prices above $8,000.
Pearls continue to climb leading to regional trophies like champs arena to boost to all time highs. Meanwhile, no action on the palace belt, but it will only be a matter of time.
does palace belt have any relation to palace book and that series?
Not really. The Palace Book was given out at gym battles which are a lot more prevelant (any tcg store could register as a gym). The Palace book was also reprinted as an sm-p promo during the sun and moon era. Finally, the Palace Book is a 5-Ban artwork so it has that 3-D cgi look and feel to it. Not a bad card to have (I own one), but if it sounds like I’m shitting on it compared to a Palace Belt, I guess I am.
Here is what the Palace Belt has going for it. The Palace Belt was only awarded at the Open Battle League Tournament and Hall of Fame events at the Battle Carnival 2012. The artwork was never reprinted, and it is a completely holographic card (not just a mirror reverse like the book). Finally, the Palace Belt was illustrated by Ryo Ueda. This artist is well known for illustrating artwork for prize cards, regional trophies, and national trophies. A few good examples would be Championship Arena (stadium & trainer trophies), Mysterious Pearl, Miracle Diamond, Wonder Platinum, No. 2 Trainer, Mew EX Play, and Champion’s League (stadium & trainer trophies).
sparky55603:
does palace belt have any relation to palace book and that series?
Not really. The Palace Book was given out at gym battles which are a lot more prevelant (any tcg store could register as a gym). The Palace book was also reprinted as an sm-p promo during the sun and moon era. Finally, the Palace Book is a 5-Ban artwork so it has that 3-D cgi look and feel to it. Not a bad card to have (I own one), but if it sounds like I’m shitting on it compared to a Palace Belt, I guess I am.
Here is what the Palace Belt has going for it. The Palace Belt was only awarded at the Open Battle League Tournament and Hall of Fame events at the Battle Carnival 2012. The artwork was never reprinted, and it is a completely holographic card (not just a mirror reverse like the book). Finally, the Palace Belt was illustrated by Ryo Ueda. This artist is well known for illustrating artwork for prize cards, regional trophies, and national trophies. A few good examples would be Championship Arena (stadium & trainer trophies), Mysterious Pearl, Miracle Diamond, Wonder Platinum, No. 2 Trainer, Mew EX Play, and Champion’s League (stadium & trainer trophies).
But Palace Belt is quite ugly. I only have one PSA 10 copy and it just stays in my dry cabinet.
On the other hand, I have a few PSA 10 Palace Book (SM-P version) which I take out and admire every other day.
I don’t have any XY-P version as it doesn’t look nice.
chrispy:
Not really. The Palace Book was given out at gym battles which are a lot more prevelant (any tcg store could register as a gym). The Palace book was also reprinted as an sm-p promo during the sun and moon era. Finally, the Palace Book is a 5-Ban artwork so it has that 3-D cgi look and feel to it. Not a bad card to have (I own one), but if it sounds like I’m shitting on it compared to a Palace Belt, I guess I am.
Here is what the Palace Belt has going for it. The Palace Belt was only awarded at the Open Battle League Tournament and Hall of Fame events at the Battle Carnival 2012. The artwork was never reprinted, and it is a completely holographic card (not just a mirror reverse like the book). Finally, the Palace Belt was illustrated by Ryo Ueda. This artist is well known for illustrating artwork for prize cards, regional trophies, and national trophies. A few good examples would be Championship Arena (stadium & trainer trophies), Mysterious Pearl, Miracle Diamond, Wonder Platinum, No. 2 Trainer, Mew EX Play, and Champion’s League (stadium & trainer trophies).
But Palace Belt is quite ugly. I only have one PSA 10 copy and it just stays in my dry cabinet.
On the other hand, I have a few PSA 10 Palace Book (SM-P version) which I take out and admire every other day.
I don’t have any XY-P version as it doesn’t look nice.
Cool. So you prefer the promo palace book to the prize palace book, and you prefer that promo to the prize palace belt. Yes? Do you want to trade your palace belt for another one of those books so you can admire it every day?
Both of those cards look incredible to me!
hermit:
But Palace Belt is quite ugly. I only have one PSA 10 copy and it just stays in my dry cabinet.
On the other hand, I have a few PSA 10 Palace Book (SM-P version) which I take out and admire every other day.
I don’t have any XY-P version as it doesn’t look nice.
Cool. So you prefer the promo palace book to the prize palace book, and you prefer that promo to the prize palace belt. Yes? Do you want to trade your palace belt for another one of those books so you can admire it every day?
If someone offers me either Palace Book or Palace Belt, with the condition that the card cannot be traded/sold forever, I would take Palace Book.
If someone offers me either Palace Book or Palace Belt, and allows me to do whatever I want with the cards , I would take Palace Belt (because it is currently more expensive), sell it immediately, and buy a Palace Book.
chrispy:
Cool. So you prefer the promo palace book to the prize palace book, and you prefer that promo to the prize palace belt. Yes? Do you want to trade your palace belt for another one of those books so you can admire it every day?
If someone offers me either Palace Book or Palace Belt, with the condition that the card cannot be traded/sold forever, I would take Palace Book.
If someone offers me either Palace Book or Palace Belt, and allows me to do whatever I want with the cards , I would take Palace Belt (because it is currently more expensive), sell it immediately, and buy a Palace Book.
“currently” meaning you anticipate that to change? Again, if that is your preference and belief, let’s do a trade! You are welcome to collect and like whatever you want. Some people would prefer a dunsparce common over a stormfront charizard. That wasn’t really what was asked in the original question I was responding to.



