retraces on these kinds of cards with these kinds of release is something I’ve personally never seen so If i wanted the card i would buy it now at whatever price cause itll probably just go up from here
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Honestly it’s pretty ridiculous to see people complaining about Yahoo Japan scams and middleman services. All the people planning Buyee chargebacks because of condition really didn’t know what they were getting themselves into and should have done more research before they spent hundreds/thousands of dollars on sketchy listings.
Yahoo Japan has no buyer protection. It’s not eBay, so stop pretending like it is. It’s also not for the faint of heart or the new to collecting. I spent years in the hobby before I felt comfortable buying from Yahoo Japan. I’ve had cards switched out for lesser condition copies, I’ve had cards simply not arrive, I’ve had sealed product arrive damaged, you name the scam, it’s happened to me. And I consider myself pretty adept at sniffing out scams and westerner bait.
You have to manage this risk. For each person it’s different, but @chok summed it up beautifully a few pages back. Basically, know what you’re getting yourself into before you start buying.
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I believe Alola Friends is 401/SM-P, but I am pretty doubtful that Alola Friends, the Pikachu or the MBS will see a big retrace if any. It’s a pretty well-loved promo from a relatively limited product.
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Is that a nice fingerprint on the last picture?
But hell, I’d still buy it if I had the money.
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Think this was last year, but just a fun comparison, an Ex condition Celebi going for about 3 times more?
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I don’t think Yahoo Auctions will open up to international buyers. Sounds too much of logistical undertaking for a Japanese company to commit to, especially when they might end up on the hook for dodgy international transactions. I’m sure all this proxy bidding is giving them the spooks enough as it is, especially as the scams become more prevalent and claims become more frequent. No, keep it Japan-only thank you very much. Lord knows I’m tired already of getting into bidding wars with anonymous middle-men for every darn thing I want to buy on there.
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Apart from Yahoo getting international and how it likely would not happen, if you order even a few packages from there each month you will likely be cheaper off using a middlemen service. The shipping cost you save are pretty big.
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Yahoo now requires a Japanese phone number to register and sends a confirmation text to weed out fake numbers. Mercari blocks international buyers and those trying to use a Japanese VPN. There are sellers on Yahoo who still insist on the “we’ll call you after purchase to confirm transaction” tactic [to verify you can speak fluent Japanese and are not a foreigner]. I don’t see signs of them being eager to open to the West. That being said Mercari did arrange a partnership with Taobao in China recently.
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Since the guy who’s selling the Umbreon is the same guy who sold the Espeon, do we know the buyer of the Espeon and whether he received the card? At least that would add some credibility to the seller
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Hello Hobbyists,
i have 2 questions :
1- would you think buyee is better than zenmarket ?
2- how long does it takes for buyee to provide you with a tracking nb once you consolide and pay for shipping. it has been more than a week for me now, seems a bit long …
thanks in advance
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@pokefalia not sure on 1, as I have only ever used Buyee, but I don’t have any real complaints. As for 2, I did once pay for the package to be sent that got stuck in “preparing to ship” (or whatever it is) for a few weeks, but it arrived as expected. Other than that it’s almost always the next day.
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Buyee is a million times better than zenmarket, but that is not saying much. The only downside to buyee is their limit on how expensive an item you can buy caps out at 900,000 yen. The fact you can pay directly with paypal through them makes zenmarket looks like child’s play. If you need to buy something more expensive than 900,000 yen, there are better sites than zenmarket that will let you pay directly with a credit card or paypal instead of having to upload funds ahead of time into a “purse” (really Zenmarket???)
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You should have received an email with the tracking number right away, did you opt for DHL or FedEx? When you log into your buyee profile, go to My Page, Package Information, then Delivery and you should see any packages currently enroute to you.
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The Umbreon PLAY promo is starting off at 2,900,000 Yen. How do you purchase something like that if the cap is 900,000 yen?
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@kpod, may I ask what these better alternatives to zenmarket are (for more expensive items that can’t be bought using buyee)?
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How could it be _ridiculous_ that people are upset for getting scammed?
I’ll say it again - the standard you walk past is the one you accept. I think it’s pretty wild that people are totally complacent with middleman like Buyee not being able to better help with returns or getting money back on scams. It means that there is OPPORTUNITY for a middleman to step up and provide a better service.
I once heard smpratte say in his video that it really bums him out when people get scammed on fake cards because it ultimately turns the buyer off from pokemon, they get burnt and move onto the next thing instead of going deeper on pokemon as a hobby. I thought that was a really hopeful sentiment about how an OG collector views the market ahead - being supportive of the growing the market instead of having ancient boomer views “get off my lawn” type stuff. >.>
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now imagine they swap it with the dented one and you have no buyer protection…
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Why do you think that they wouldn’t?
Technically, Yahoo is already international. If you visit their website from a non JP IP, this is what you get, “Click here to buy Yahoo! Japan Auction items from overseas” right in the middle at the top.
they are already facilitating this in some way, just via a 3rd party. I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch to think they wouldn’t take this in house at some point… if they had some sort of reason to not want foreigners to buy items, they wouldn’t even acknowledge buyee’s existence. here they are flat out supporting it.
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This is next-level argument twisting.
Getting upset with scams is totally justified, as I said I’ve been scammed before on Yahoo Japan and it sucks. Less scams are better. What’s completely unjustified is blaming middleman services for this and using chargebacks as a way to cover yourself because you didn’t get exactly what you expected. Turning this into a self-righteous “well this is how middleman services should be” is again a fundamental misunderstanding of the way Yahoo Japan works and another indication that yourself and many other people new to buying from Japan simply don’t know what they’re getting themselves into.
It’s not that Buyee could offer refunds/returns if they want to and they’re just screwing with you. Yahoo Japan only pays out sellers once the item is delivered and confirmed received in the proper condition, often within a week or so after auction end. If there is no confirmation within that time frame, the seller is paid anyway. **Once this money is paid out it cannot be recovered.**So within the Yahoo Japan framework, Buyee has a limited time frame to respond to any issues. Their inspection plan basically covers what they can do (clearly wrong item sent, item seriously damaged in transit) but nothing beyond that. Buyee or any other middleman service has no ability to return the items sent after they’ve been internationally shipped.
So if Buyee were to offer returns, they’d be stuck not only with responsibility for the full purchase price, but for finding some way to get rid of the returned item. It’s just not possible with the way Yahoo Japan is set up. Sure, I’d love it if eBay-style “buyer is always right” returns were possible, but there’s a reason no middleman service offers them. You aren’t going to change the structure of Japanese auction sites nor hurt scammers by initiating a chargeback that affects neither of those entities.
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From what I’m hearing this particular seller is trustworthy, but yeah definitely in general Yahoo is getting worse every day. I have no doubt that if this card was on eBay it could fetch tens of thousands of dollars more.
I guess a lot of the value comes from buying at a more limited market & taking that risk.
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